puppa bear wrote:No, that would be considered improper extrapolation of two non-exchangeable ideas.
The discussion began to steer towards the assertion that Winslow is better than Hayward was when he was the same age. For starters I disagree with that implication and cited the difference in their production based on the contrasting gap in their minutes played.
I then injected Booker into the conversation because he is a real time example of a player who is the same age as Winslow. And although he's certainly no facsimile of Hayward in terms of skill-set, Booker's game is much closer to resembling Hayward's than does Winslow's. The extrapolation now becomes a comparison between the future potential of two current 20 Y.O's rather than Winslow's future and Hayward's present reality.
My greater point however has to do with the short term future of the team which would be significantly elevated with the addition of a play making, perimeter ball handler like Hayward or Booker to a lesser degree. The stylistic fit on the court would be much better than what it is now with Winslow, and the offseason attractiveness of the team to potential free agents would also gets a tremendous spike.
Would I trade Winslow/Dragic for Hayward/Exum? Probably not until I've seen more of Exum. I was not high on him pre-draft & he's done very little to ease my concerns. If he shows he can hit the jumper more consistently, stays healthy and is a plus defender then I'm sold. But it's a weird combo of both teams trading potential for certainty at different positions. I like the age of Hayward/Exum better for us.
My thinking behind this swap is that Mia needs an adept, prime perimeter player and Utah could potentially lose Hayward for nothing in the offseason. Utah would almost certainly insist that any discussion involving Hayward with Mia includes Winslow. It obviously wouldn't work as a straight up deal because Winslow's on his rookie deal so Mia would have to couple his contract with one that closely matches Hayward's. Utah obviously has yet to get their returns on Exum who was highly drafted, so the idea of bolstering their PG position via trade is within reasonable consideration. Dragic and his contract is penciled in and Mia could then request to take back Exum to replace the developmental potential that they surrendered in Winslow and the position loss in Dragic.
See how there are more steps in the whole thought process.
Respectfully, I've considered the steps.