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Who do you want from realistic options such as T.J. Leaf? Vote T.J. Now

T.J. Leaf
13
14%
John Collins
4
4%
Isaiah Hartenstein
4
4%
OG Anunoby
8
9%
Justin Jackson
12
13%
Justin Patton
5
5%
Harry Giles
7
8%
Zach Collins
18
19%
Luke Kennard
8
9%
Other
14
15%
 
Total votes: 93

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Post#1621 » by Heatle » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:34 pm

To those that like Kennard, ZCollins, Markkanen, or Leaf, can we get some realistic pro comparisons?
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Post#1622 » by Heat_Fan_87 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:36 pm

Heatle wrote:To those that like Kennard, ZCollins, Markannen, or Leaf, can we get some realistic pro comparisons?

kennard reminds me of jj reddick
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Post#1623 » by rate_ » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:05 pm

Kennard - Manu Ginobili (w/o the in game athleticism)
Markkanen - Ryan Anderson
Zach Collins - Raef Lafrentz
TJ Leaf - Nick Collison
WS/48 through 7-10-2017
J Collins: .548
DSJ: .485
Isaac: .240
Tatum: .236
Kennard: .235
Adebayo: .229
Mitchell: .205
Fox: .185
Markkanen: .148
J Jackson (Kansas): .060
Leaf: .030
Z Collins: .016
J Jackson (UNC): -.016
Fultz: -.045
L Ball: -.093
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Post#1624 » by afour495+ » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:18 pm

Just take Giles and get this over with, his potential outweighs any other player's abilities available at 14.
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Post#1625 » by Jonathan2323 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:20 pm

Giles is going to be a huge bust.
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Post#1626 » by RJM » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:08 pm

rate_ wrote:Kennard - Manu Ginobili (w/o the in game athleticism)
Markkanen - Ryan Anderson
Zach Collins - Raef Lafrentz
TJ Leaf - Nick Collison


Except for, perhaps, Ryan Anderson (Lauri seems more mobile), none of those guys (even at their peak) are lottery-level talents. Nick Collison (6 points, 5 rebounds a game for his career) isn't a lottery talent. Manu Ginobili (that's a huge stretch in comparison) without any athleticism is not someone you waste a rare lottery pick on.
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Post#1627 » by IggieCC » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:28 pm

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Bishop45 wrote:
Spoiler:



Dikembe Kobe-Wade


White athletic shooting forward, Timmy Turner


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Post#1628 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:29 pm

Giles is Kwame Brown
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Post#1629 » by leoshes » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:32 pm

Jonathan2323 wrote:Giles is going to be a huge bust.



If our medical team is satisfied with his health progress i would be happy drafting him. He has the most potential from anyone at our range. But he has to be able to get back to 100%.
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Post#1630 » by leoshes » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:36 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Giles is Kwame Brown



More like Greg Oden unless he can get back to 100% & if so he is as quick as Bosh & Lamar Odom.

Watch some High School games of him & you will see.
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Post#1631 » by Bishop45 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:47 pm

contract wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:Nice to see the "Euros" aren't getting picked on as much anymore, even though we still have guys who think the NCAA can compete in any shape with the professional competition in Euroleague's

I'm one of those guys.


Euroleague is the second best professional league out there, NCAA's not even in the same league competitively

Sorry about turning this thread into an afterschool special
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Post#1632 » by leoshes » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:53 pm

Bishop45 wrote:
contract wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:Nice to see the "Euros" aren't getting picked on as much anymore, even though we still have guys who think the NCAA can compete in any shape with the professional competition in Euroleague's

I'm one of those guys.


Euroleague is the second best professional league out there, NCAA's not even in the same league competitively

Sorry about turning this thread into an afterschool special



The problem with Euro players, or players from anywhere else is that they dont get to compete with all the other talents coming out of College. So its harder to compere them to those that played against each other.
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Post#1633 » by Bishop45 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:02 pm

leoshes wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:
contract wrote:I'm one of those guys.


Euroleague is the second best professional league out there, NCAA's not even in the same league competitively

Sorry about turning this thread into an afterschool special



The problem with Euro players, or players from anywhere else is that they dont get to compete with all the other talents coming out of College. So its harder to compere them to those that played against each other.

But they're playing better overall competition in Euroleague, you're talking about maybe 5... At the most, really talented prospects in NCAA who's head-to-head match-ups don't count for anything. Playing in the Euroleague doesn't make a prospect inferior, just means they have to be evaluated by different means of competition
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Post#1634 » by Mos_Heat » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:20 pm

Bishop45 wrote:
leoshes wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:
Euroleague is the second best professional league out there, NCAA's not even in the same league competitively

Sorry about turning this thread into an afterschool special



The problem with Euro players, or players from anywhere else is that they dont get to compete with all the other talents coming out of College. So its harder to compere them to those that played against each other.

But they're playing better overall competition in Euroleague, you're talking about maybe 5... At the most, really talented prospects in NCAA who's head-to-head match-ups don't count for anything. Playing in the Euroleague doesn't make a prospect inferior, just means they have to be evaluated by different means of competition

yep. Real Madrid, CSKA or Fenerbache would easily beat any College team in a 7 game series
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Post#1635 » by Burnie Riley » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:27 pm

Via Chad Ford Insider
"The hot name moving up fastest: Luke Kennard

Kennard has been a polarizing prospect, but a consensus is starting to form among teams that have evaluated him recently.
He started the college season as a fringe first-round prospect, but in recent weeks he's moved up fast. Based on conversations with GMs this week, I put him in the third tier of first-round-caliber players, but teams are increasingly grouping him with other second-tier prospects.
Kennard has worked out for the Lakers, Knicks, Pistons, Heat and Pacers. He still has workouts scheduled with the Magic, Mavericks and Hornets.
The feedback from teams has been overwhelmingly positive.

"There's no way he gets to us," one GM in the late lottery said. "I don't think there's any way he's out of the top 10. We think he's the best shooter in the draft. We think he's tough. He's more athletic than you think. He really thinks the game. He's the most underrated guy in this draft."

"He's ranked ahead of Malik Monk on our board," another GM said. "He's not as athletic, but he has a much more versatile game and he's less streaky. Monk will be great. An instant scorer coming off the bench. But we think Kennard could be a full-time starter in the league."
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Shooting comes at a premium right now in the NBA, and that partially explains the rise in Kennard's stock. But most teams see the former Blue Devil as more than just a shooter.
Right now it looks like the Pistons at No. 12 are Kennard's floor. But he could go higher. The Knicks, according to a team source, are seriously considering taking him at No. 8. And a Lakers source said he'd be a favorite if the team ends up with a second pick in the top 10."


If he's the pick, at least we won't have another dissappointing summer league, watching our first round pick shoot 4 of 17 consistently Like Nape Dogg and Ustise :P

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soon :o
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Post#1636 » by Burnie Riley » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:37 pm

What happened to Frankenstein? Fell completely off te radar. Should've come over to do some workouts or the combine.

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Post#1637 » by Burnie Riley » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:39 pm

I've been doing a lot of reading and I've been hearing about this guy nonstop. They make it sound like he's the best defender in this draft. Ive never seen him play.
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Post#1638 » by Bishop45 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:42 pm

Not buying the Kennard hype at all, small, slow, barely athletic at all. He's 1a with Justin Jackson on my mock but I'd take him over Justin for being slightly younger with a superior skill (But not far ahead of JJackson)

Lotto pick for him seems like overkll, although I wouldn't be mad (Just anybody but Giles)
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Post#1639 » by Bishop45 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:09 am

Burnie Riley wrote:What happened to Frankenstein? Fell completely off te radar. Should've come over to do some workouts or the combine.


Yup, that other Latvian kid that played with Kristaps got a lot of exposure and is ahead on a lot of mocks because of it

edit; guess that was pro day but Harty should've tried to get to one of those
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Post#1640 » by Mos_Heat » Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:30 am

I don't know why Justin Jackson is 2nd on the poll. Gonna be an average bench player at best, imo

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