Winslow

[puppa bear]

After the game in Mexico City versus the Nets, it's clear that Winslow's shooting (if not his defense) is improving, but he still has far to go. Updated stats (after 25th game in Mexico)

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Looking at those numbers with last years sandwiched between, it makes it look so much more like last year was an aberration, and one cut short by injury. This year looks like a normal progression for a second year player - can we petition the league to have his stats for last year expunged from existence?

[Kobewade11]

The kid worked his tail off to rehab and improve his shooting over the summer. He doesn't have far to go, statistically he's improving on a normal trajectory for a player his age..he just needs a consistent role with consistent playing time if we want to see consistent results start to stack up. He's playing 5 less minutes per game than his rookie season, looking at some of his contemporaries Richardson is +11 in minutes from rookie season to now, Oubre +17, Stanley +7.

[Bishop45]

Last year he had a huge improvement in his playmaking that a large part of the fanbase won't credit him for, this year looks like he's getting his shot together. I'd like to see him steadily shoot 4 threes a game on at least 30% this year but it's early. If he's traded, hopefully the next coach gives him back some handling opportunities and he keeps up his 3pt percentage

[RexBoyWonder]

Justise now is shooting 39% from 3 this year. how bout them apples.

Still needs to be way more aggressive and drive and finish strong, but making strides.

Spo better keep pushing him to be impactful on offense, give him the ball and live with some growing pains.

[Wiltside]

Actually think he's better suited in this 2nd unit tbh, away from Mion.

He's an athletic guy, but he doesn't use his athleticism as much as he could, particularly when going to the hole. Would love to see him explode for a jam like he did in his very first game vs Charlotte. The tip dunk vs Washington was an example of the hops he does have, but doesn't use enough.

Very happy to see that 3-ball coming along though. Need a few more multiple three games before I feel like it's for real though.

[Wiltside]

Additional tidbit.

In 11 games off the bench, Winslow's numbers are:

7.3ppg, 5.4rpg, 1.5apg, 0.5bpg, 0.6spg in 23.1mpg. Shooting wise, he's 47.9%fg (3.1 / 6.5) and 47.1% 3fg (0.7 / 1.5).

Clearly looks more comfortable coming off the bench. He's had a 3pter in 4 consecutive games, the longest streak of his career. I'd say the jumper is coming around. Next step in the evolution is to figure out how to finish through contact (or atleast draw the foul) and to get more "Point Winslow" time. He showed such huge progress in that area last season, would love to see him handle the rock more than he is currently.

[KingDavid]

Very glad his 3pt shot seems to be coming through. When his pull up 3 catches up, his game should explode from there.

[Zasterror]

It will be a slow grind but Winslow will be worth it in the end. Hopefully the Heat will still be patient with him enough to keep him around in his mid-20s.

[Hallstar]

It will be a slow grind but Winslow will be worth it in the end. Hopefully the Heat will still be patient with him enough to keep him around in his mid-20s.

So we're waiting for his 3rd contract to know what we have? Hell of a player to build around

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[twix2500]

Progress, he still has to be a very disciplined shooter. He showing the signs he can make wide open shots from the corner. He far from out the woods.

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[Chalm Down]

It will be a slow grind but Winslow will be worth it in the end. Hopefully the Heat will still be patient with him enough to keep him around in his mid-20s.

So we're waiting for his 3rd contract to know what we have? Hell of a player to build around

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They're building around him?

[Kobewade11]

They're building around him?

Yea I didn't really understand that comment. Winslow, along with Richardson have been billed by the organization as building pieces. I don't think anybody inside ever said either one was meant to be the center piece of this operation.

[Hallstar]

We're capped out with no allstars and no draft picks, one of the young pieces on the team better be viewed as the future. If it's not the guy that was billed as potential Kawhi and Jimmy Butler, then who is it?

We can get into semantics of building piece and center piece, but right now whoever you consider our best player is likely a 3rd option on a contender at best.

The team needs a fresh start, and I see no reason to compound our issues by waiting til he's 26 to figure out the real Winslow .

[Rafly]

We're capped out with no allstars and no draft picks, one of the young pieces on the team better be viewed as the future. If it's not the guy that was billed as potential Kawhi and Jimmy Butler, then who is it?

We can get into semantics of building piece and center piece, but right now whoever you consider our best player is likely a 3rd option on a contender at best.

The team needs a fresh start, and I see no reason to compound our issues by waiting til he's 26 to figure out the real Winslow .

The team might need a fresh start but that has nothing to do with Bustise. Fact of the matter is he's gone from 20% to 40% from 3 in a year after injuries and stuff. I’m excited to see what another year brings. And on the fresh start definitely understandable but you get ride of Hassan, Dragic, Dion etc.

[Kobewade11]

We're capped out with no allstars and no draft picks, one of the young pieces on the team better be viewed as the future. If it's not the guy that was billed as potential Kawhi and Jimmy Butler, then who is it?

We can get into semantics of building piece and center piece, but right now whoever you consider our best player is likely a 3rd option on a contender at best.

The team needs a fresh start, and I see no reason to compound our issues by waiting til he's 26 to figure out the real Winslow .

Yea, that has nothing to do with Winslow. If you think we have a problem in the area of who our best players are then maybe you should start there. As for Winslow, like Bam, their development is costing us pennies on the dollar right now. They havent been awarded 100 million, 90 million, or 52 million dollar contracts.

[Hallstar]

We're capped out with no allstars and no draft picks, one of the young pieces on the team better be viewed as the future. If it's not the guy that was billed as potential Kawhi and Jimmy Butler, then who is it?

We can get into semantics of building piece and center piece, but right now whoever you consider our best player is likely a 3rd option on a contender at best.

The team needs a fresh start, and I see no reason to compound our issues by waiting til he's 26 to figure out the real Winslow .

Yea, that has nothing to do with Winslow. If you think we have a problem in the area of who our best players are then maybe you should start there. As for Winslow, like Bam, their development is costing us pennies on the dollar right now. They havent been awarded 100 million, 90 million, or 52 million dollar contracts.

He's not gonna be cheap forever and the extension is coming sooner than later. Which is why I quoted the person talking about mid 20s.

We've been giving out contracts hoping something will happen and we're busy going nowhere. So is the idea to match Winslow at 60 mil because some other team might show interest?

My point is where does it end? We already have a 100 mil supporting cast with nothing to support.

I'm not against Winslow, I'm against the lack of direction the last 3 years

[RexBoyWonder]

Nobody is maxing Justise right now, we need to be patience, maximize his development and hope he breaks out.

When his rookie deal is done, reassess his value considering the other option.

[puppa bear]

We're capped out with no allstars and no draft picks, one of the young pieces on the team better be viewed as the future. If it's not the guy that was billed as potential Kawhi and Jimmy Butler, then who is it?

We can get into semantics of building piece and center piece, but right now whoever you consider our best player is likely a 3rd option on a contender at best.

The team needs a fresh start, and I see no reason to compound our issues by waiting til he's 26 to figure out the real Winslow .

Yea, that has nothing to do with Winslow. If you think we have a problem in the area of who our best players are then maybe you should start there. As for Winslow, like Bam, their development is costing us pennies on the dollar right now. They havent been awarded 100 million, 90 million, or 52 million dollar contracts.

He's not gonna be cheap forever and the extension is coming sooner than later. Which is why I quoted the person talking about mid 20s.

We've been giving out contracts hoping something will happen and we're busy going nowhere. So is the idea to match Winslow at 60 mil because some other team might show interest?

My point is where does it end? We already have a 100 mil supporting cast with nothing to support.

I'm not against Winslow, I'm against the lack of direction the last 3 years

Yes we might not have anything to support, right now. But I would expect Riley to be very active this year, with lots of movable pieces for teams looking to move FA stars who are not committing (PG) or may be flight risks (Boogie), or perhaps RFAs that may cost too much to resign (Parker). It may be that we look the same at the end of the season, but I'm expecting some change.

[Bishop45]

Going to be a sad day if/when he gets traded

Don't drink, so I'll po' out a pint of Fairlife for him

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[Wiltside]

Don’t scare me like this Bish. I thought our son was gone