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				Miami HEAT Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Sardine Central
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:28 am
				by IggieCC
				
Continue the discussion here
 
			
					
				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:34 am
				by Umbooki
				Randomly woke up from a booze nap.  Sudafed suck.  I love y'all and I love Justise.
			 
			
					
				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:34 am
				by Rapaz
				Sardines cont'd
			 
			
					
				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:39 am
				by J-House
				Tilikum up in this bish
			 
			
					
				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:52 am
				by Rafly
				Nervous
			 
			
					
				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:11 am
				by goodboy
				
			 
			
					
				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:47 am
				by HeatIn5
				14, Winslow, Richardson for george 
TJ to BRK for 27. Draft Semi
Add Gordon Hayward, Keith Benson (or UDFA C or MLE on Weed) and either Shelvin Mack or Trey Burke. UDFA guard like Davin Reed. 
Dragic/Mack
McGruder/Ellington/Reed
George/ Semi/ Okaro
Hayward/ Babbitt/ McBob
Hassan/ MLE Used on Weed or UDFA/ Haslem
Still 1 other roster spot1 to fill with another shooter
			 
			
					
				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:29 am
				by Dr_Heat
				IN

 
			
					
				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:09 am
				by puppa bear
				JustiseForMiami wrote:14, Winslow, Richardson for george 
TJ to BRK for 27. Draft Semi
Add Gordon Hayward, Keith Benson (or UDFA C or MLE on Weed) and either Shelvin Mack or Trey Burke. UDFA guard like Davin Reed. 
Dragic/Mack
McGruder/Ellington/Reed
George/ Semi/ Okaro
Hayward/ Babbitt/ McBob
Hassan/ MLE Used on Weed or UDFA/ Haslem
Still 1 other roster spot1 to fill with another shooter
Neither Hayward nor George are playing 4 - we need someone else to play the 4.
 
			
					
				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:43 am
				by Wiltside
				Beasley to the rescue!
			 
			
					
				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:47 am
				by Mos_Heat
				
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				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:59 am
				by Chalm Down
				Opie better deliver Hayward on July 1st 12:01 am...and not a minute later

 
			
					
				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:38 pm
				by Mos_Heat
				Wetlington+pick for Saric
 
			
					
				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:59 pm
				by Daffy
				Haven't seen anyone connecting us to Paul George. Even searched Windhorst tweets and nada.
			 
			
					
				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:12 pm
				by Mos_Heat
				Daffy wrote:Haven't seen anyone connecting us to Paul George. Even searched Windhorst tweets and nada.
he said it on a espn lockdown pod. But nothing specific, something like "Miami is one of the teams that 
could make a run for George"
 
			
					
				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:22 pm
				by HIF
				Just get Beasley back in.
That'd be a good summer right there.
			 
			
					
				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:35 pm
				by J-House
				HIF wrote:Just get Beasley back in.
That'd be a good summer right there.
10 year/1 million dollar offer.
 
			
					
				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:43 pm
				by J-House
				Babbitt's birthday today. He just turned 28 so he should be entering his prime right?
			 
			
					
				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:51 pm
				by LEIF
				Wuzzup RealGM family.
What I have heard:
We have made an offer for PG. However, so far - it was not every young chip. There is hesitation by some members of the FO in parting with TJ, Winslow and the 14th pick for a player who is very openly stating he is a one year rental barring absolutely unforeseen circumstances. I think they will err on the side of caution because Pat, even as confident in his ability to sway players as he is.... is well aware of the back channeling that has taken place regarding Magic Johnson and Paul George. 
I think ultimately LAL will find a way to acquire PG because he is so adamant to end up there after next season regardless. 
Speaking of back channeling......
HEAT are quietly, cautiously, yet pretty damn confident on Gordon Hayward pursuit. Confident enough that some of the urge to trade for PG circles around the thought that it would clinch Hayward to Miami. Even as a rental there is feeling it would clinch Hayward coming to Miami on a 3 +1 deal. 
Sounds like James Johnson already has two numbers floated his way (1 offer with Hayward, 1 offer without) and its pretty likely he is retained. Although I personally am a little nervous he gets a monster offer like Deng did on July 1. 
Also,
HEAT love Donovan Mitchell in the draft. They see him as a player who can replace Dion Waiters if they spend elsewhere or get outbid. He also enables them to move Tyler Johnson at some point because his contract (after it spikes in 18-19) likely cannot coexist on the same roster with Goran's $$. Remember, Riley didn't want to match on TJ, was ready to let him walk - and Arison stepped in and mandated they match because they didn't want to lose the asset.
That's all I got.
			 
			
					
				Re: Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Free Willy 2.0
				Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:00 pm
				by Heat_Fan_87
				LEIF wrote:Wuzzup RealGM family.
What I have heard:
We have made an offer for PG. However, so far - it was not every young chip. There is hesitation by some members of the FO in parting with TJ, Winslow and the 14th pick for a player who is very openly stating he is a one year rental barring absolutely unforeseen circumstances. I think they will err on the side of caution because Pat, even as confident in his ability to sway players as he is.... is well aware of the back channeling that has taken place regarding Magic Johnson and Paul George. 
I think ultimately LAL will find a way to acquire PG because he is so adamant to end up there after next season regardless. 
Speaking of back channeling......
HEAT are quietly, cautiously, yet pretty damn confident on Gordon Hayward pursuit. Confident enough that some of the urge to trade for PG circles around the thought that it would clinch Hayward to Miami. Even as a rental there is feeling it would clinch Hayward coming to Miami on a 3 +1 deal. 
Sounds like James Johnson already has two numbers floated his way (1 offer with Hayward, 1 offer without) and its pretty likely he is retained. Although I personally am a little nervous he gets a monster offer like Deng did on July 1. 
Also,
HEAT love Donovan Mitchell in the draft. They see him as a player who can replace Dion Waiters if they spend elsewhere or get outbid. He also enables them to move Tyler Johnson at some point because his contract (after it spikes in 18-19) likely cannot coexist on the same roster with Goran's $$. Remember, Riley didn't want to match on TJ, was ready to let him walk - and Arison stepped in and mandated they match because they didn't want to lose the asset.
That's all I got.
Good info, all makes sense.  if we got assurance from PG he stays here, then i think we do that deal all day long, it would probably take making the ECF to keep him at least one more season, kind of risky.
so our 2 best scenarios this off season sound like 
dragic
tj
hayward
johnson
whiteside 
dragic
PG
hayward
babbit
whiteside 
i like that 2nd one.