Would you trade Dragic and Whiteside for Kyrie?

Wolfy1983 · Post #1 » by **Wolfy1983** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:20 am

Seems like major overkill for me. if anything, it would give us a smaller shot at upsetting Cleveland, especially if Whiteside is included in that package.

Bishop45 · Post #2 » by **Bishop45** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:22 am

Dragic or Whiteside? Yea'... Wasted a thread if you mean *And

goodboy · Post #3 » by **goodboy** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:26 am

Nope.

Dragic/TJ - Dragic/Winslow

Bishop45 · Post #4 » by **Bishop45** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:28 am

Maybe Bam's to replace Hassan sooner than we thought

JK... I think

Heat_Fan_87 · Post #5 » by **Heat_Fan_87** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:34 am

hell no. im hesitant to mess with our chemistry and let dragic go

goodboy · Post #6 » by **goodboy** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:34 am

bish pls

Bishop45 · Post #7 » by **Bishop45** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:37 am

HeatWillRise wrote:bish pls

Don't really care for Myrie, just playing Igg's advocate (Never goes well) for the moment. It's excite

LikeABosh · Post #8 » by **LikeABosh** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:00 am

I would rather have Whiteside.

Kyrie is awesome for sure, but dude plays like Kobe did when Kobe had smush parker and kwame brown as teammates...except Kyrie has lebron and love as teammates. I don't know what situation he'd have to be in to make him happy while also making us a winning franchise.

TroubleS0me · Post #9 » by **TroubleS0me** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:13 am

Kyrie aint that special lol but no

dshearn · Post #10 » by **dshearn** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:40 am

hells no

I want to see this team get a second chance to finish what they start.

this team has hella chemistry, why bring a guy in who has issues sharing the ball with a HOF player who is KNOWN for being so unselfish he comes off as passive at times.

Cmon_Son-_- · Post #11 » by **Cmon_Son-_-** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:14 am

LikeABosh wrote:I would rather have Whiteside.

Kyrie is awesome for sure, but dude plays like Kobe did when Kobe had smush parker and kwame brown as teammates...except Kyrie has lebron and love as teammates. I don't know what situation he'd have to be in to make him happy while also making us a winning franchise.

Not saying I would trade both for Kyrie but isn't that the Culture we parade about. If we can turn guys like Whiteside, JJ and Dion into respectable players why can't we do the same for a young star?

LikeABosh · Post #12 » by **LikeABosh** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:35 am

Cmon_Son-_- wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:I would rather have Whiteside.

Kyrie is awesome for sure, but dude plays like Kobe did when Kobe had smush parker and kwame brown as teammates...except Kyrie has lebron and love as teammates. I don't know what situation he'd have to be in to make him happy while also making us a winning franchise.

Not saying I would trade both for Kyrie but isn't that the Culture we parade about. If we can turn guys like Whiteside, JJ and Dion into respectable players why can't we do the same for a young star?

That's a fair point, but I don't think Kyrie has been tossed around and dismissed like those guys though and more importantly, he's already in a winning culture. Maybe we can do that better than Lebron and his groupies, but Kyrie was given everything on the Cavs and he's still unhappy because he wants to win on his terms and be the clear-cut best player. It's alil alarming

With that said, if we can somehow get Kyrie while keeping Whiteside, I'd be happy to give a team like that a shot.

UD4MVP · Post #13 » by **UD4MVP** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:00 am

LikeABosh wrote:
Cmon_Son-_- wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:I would rather have Whiteside.

Kyrie is awesome for sure, but dude plays like Kobe did when Kobe had smush parker and kwame brown as teammates...except Kyrie has lebron and love as teammates. I don't know what situation he'd have to be in to make him happy while also making us a winning franchise.

Not saying I would trade both for Kyrie but isn't that the Culture we parade about. If we can turn guys like Whiteside, JJ and Dion into respectable players why can't we do the same for a young star?

That's a fair point, but I don't think Kyrie has been tossed around and dismissed like those guys though and more importantly, he's already in a winning culture. Maybe we can do that better than Lebron and his groupies, but Kyrie was given everything on the Cavs and he's still unhappy because he wants to win on his terms and be the clear-cut best player. It's alil alarming

With that said, if we can somehow get Kyrie while keeping Whiteside, I'd be happy to give a team like that a shot.

Honestly I would bet it's more about Kyrie not wanting to wait and see and be apart of the Lebron circus next summer. We've seen Lebron go through this twice in 2010 and 2014, and he probably wants to be in control of his own ish rather than be caught blindsided.

ThaFranchize84 · Post #14 » by **ThaFranchize84** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:13 am

I would and add in Richardson if it brought back Love and Kyrie.

Could field a team like this:

Sign a vet or start Bam
Love
J. Johnson
Waiters
Irving

Bench
Winslow
T. Johnson
KO
Ellington
Veteran C
McGruder
White
Haslem

It would have been great to sign Reed.

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LikeABosh · Post #15 » by **LikeABosh** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:27 am

UD4MVP wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:
Cmon_Son-_- wrote:Not saying I would trade both for Kyrie but isn't that the Culture we parade about. If we can turn guys like Whiteside, JJ and Dion into respectable players why can't we do the same for a young star?

That's a fair point, but I don't think Kyrie has been tossed around and dismissed like those guys though and more importantly, he's already in a winning culture. Maybe we can do that better than Lebron and his groupies, but Kyrie was given everything on the Cavs and he's still unhappy because he wants to win on his terms and be the clear-cut best player. It's alil alarming

With that said, if we can somehow get Kyrie while keeping Whiteside, I'd be happy to give a team like that a shot.

Honestly I would bet it's more about Kyrie not wanting to wait and see and be apart of the Lebron circus next summer. We've seen Lebron go through this twice in 2010 and 2014, and he probably wants to be in control of his own ish rather than be caught blindsided.

But if he has the foresight to see it now then he wouldn't be blindsided. It was already leaked that he wanted to be traded if Lebron left. Seems simple enough to play out the year with an easy road to the finals and then ask for a trade next off season when he actually has more leverage to decide where he can play (only 1 guaranteed year on his contract left at that point)

He just wants to leave because he doesn't think it's worth sacrificing his numbers and role anymore now that Cavs have a very little shot at beating the Warriors.

UD4MVP · Post #16 » by **UD4MVP** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:49 am

LikeABosh wrote:
UD4MVP wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:
That's a fair point, but I don't think Kyrie has been tossed around and dismissed like those guys though and more importantly, he's already in a winning culture. Maybe we can do that better than Lebron and his groupies, but Kyrie was given everything on the Cavs and he's still unhappy because he wants to win on his terms and be the clear-cut best player. It's alil alarming

With that said, if we can somehow get Kyrie while keeping Whiteside, I'd be happy to give a team like that a shot.

Honestly I would bet it's more about Kyrie not wanting to wait and see and be apart of the Lebron circus next summer. We've seen Lebron go through this twice in 2010 and 2014, and he probably wants to be in control of his own ish rather than be caught blindsided.

But if he has the foresight to see it now then he wouldn't be blindsided. It was already leaked that he wanted to be traded if Lebron left. Seems simple enough to play out the year with an easy road to the finals and then ask for a trade next off season when he actually has more leverage to decide where he can play (only 1 guaranteed year on his contract left at that point)

He just wants to leave because he doesn't think it's worth sacrificing his numbers and role anymore now that Cavs have a very little shot at beating the Warriors.

Probably. Wouldn't discount the Dan Gilbert factor either.

LikeABosh · Post #17 » by **LikeABosh** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:52 am

UD4MVP wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:
UD4MVP wrote:Honestly I would bet it's more about Kyrie not wanting to wait and see and be apart of the Lebron circus next summer. We've seen Lebron go through this twice in 2010 and 2014, and he probably wants to be in control of his own ish rather than be caught blindsided.

But if he has the foresight to see it now then he wouldn't be blindsided. It was already leaked that he wanted to be traded if Lebron left. Seems simple enough to play out the year with an easy road to the finals and then ask for a trade next off season when he actually has more leverage to decide where he can play (only 1 guaranteed year on his contract left at that point)

He just wants to leave because he doesn't think it's worth sacrificing his numbers and role anymore now that Cavs have a very little shot at beating the Warriors.

Probably. Wouldn't discount the Dan Gilbert factor either.

Yeah, can't forget that slimeball

Hoops23 · Post #18 » by **Hoops23** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:35 am

Hassan and dragic? A big NO

For dragic & one of winslow or richardson? Yes

DWadeno3 · Post #19 » by **DWadeno3** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:51 am

Dragic and Waiters is the only package I'd send them including Dragic. Frankly, I don't consider Irving to be that much of an upgrade over Dragic except for being significantly younger.

Post #20 » by **DayofMourning** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:28 am

I think Irving wants to get out of Cleveland before James jumps ship again. The management structure of that team has been questioned repeatedly. If not for four number one picks over ten seasons or so, theyve done little else but pay the guys they've drafted. I dont blame Kyrie for wanting to bail, especially if he knows James in all his enigmatic glory is a season away from doing so himself.

Would you take that deal?