Where do you see this all thing going? What should we do? **POLL**

[KingDavid]

Lopez is expiring. They are dumping Deng's contract. That's worth a first on its own (maybe more.) Whiteside is shooting free throws, getting to the line more often, and grabbing a ton of rebounds. If a team feeds him, he'll score a lot.

We're the dummies misusing him. I don't blame the player.

It feels so good to read that. I feel the same way. He and Dragic are being misused. They are an awful pairing for one another. If Dragic went to the Knicks to play with Porzingis or Hassan to play with CP3...sheesh.

Don't the Lakers already owe firsts? We would need them to take the TJ too. That team would improve, I'd think.

The only thing i see a happening with Whiteside to the Lakers is a salary dump for Lopez and a draft pick. They both make the same amount of money contract wise.

Then we'd be building around Dragic...this late in the game. With a rookie who plays closest like Hassan than Frye.

Man our front office has really dropped the ball with direction. I want to ask Lebatard if there really is a serious issue with them. The answer for years has been build around Wade. But now it's like they have no idea what to do.

[KingDavid]

They wouldn't want TJ. They already have a TJ type much cheaper in Clarkson.

What do they need?

A star center and a backup PG. Preferably not one about to make 19 million next year. They would probably be more then happy to swap out Lopez and young asset for Whiteside. Maybe even someone like Randle coming back.

We don't have a backup pg except Winslow as an experimental backup. What specific pick could we get from them? I think they'd be too good for the pick to be worth anything with Hassan.

[MettaWorldPanda]

It feels so good to read that. I feel the same way. He and Dragic are being misused. They are an awful pairing for one another. If Dragic went to the Knicks to play with Porzingis or Hassan to play with CP3...sheesh.

Don't the Lakers already owe firsts? We would need them to take the TJ too. That team would improve, I'd think.

The only thing i see a happening with Whiteside to the Lakers is a salary dump for Lopez and a draft pick. They both make the same amount of money contract wise.

Then we'd be building around Dragic...this late in the game. With a rookie who plays closest like Hassan than Frye.

Man our front office has really dropped the ball with direction. I want to ask Lebatard if there really is a serious issue with them. The answer for years has been build around Wade. But now it's like they have no idea what to do.

Trading Hassan for Lopez and let's say young asset let's say Randle would be like sort of hitting the reset button a bit an opening up 23 million in space. With Bam in the fold it doesn't seem like a terrible idea especially if we could get someone like Randle back.

[MettaWorldPanda]

What do they need?

A star center and a backup PG. Preferably not one about to make 19 million next year. They would probably be more then happy to swap out Lopez and young asset for Whiteside. Maybe even someone like Randle coming back.

We don't have a backup pg except Winslow as an experimental backup. What specific pick could we get from them? I think they'd be too good for the pick to be worth anything with Hassan.

I just mentioned that it's probably more realistic that they give us someone like Randle instead of a pick. We would probably prefer Randle.

[RexBoyWonder]

How about this trade : http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9xvthmr

Hassan + TJ (or Rich) + W. Ellington
for
Ingram + Deng + Lopez


Dragic
TJ
Ingram
Kelly
Bam

Young, well balanced.

[KingDavid]

The only thing i see a happening with Whiteside to the Lakers is a salary dump for Lopez and a draft pick. They both make the same amount of money contract wise.

Then we'd be building around Dragic...this late in the game. With a rookie who plays closest like Hassan than Frye.

Man our front office has really dropped the ball with direction. I want to ask Lebatard if there really is a serious issue with them. The answer for years has been build around Wade. But now it's like they have no idea what to do.

Trading Hassan for Lopez and let's say young asset let's say Randle would be like sort of hitting the reset button a bit an opening up 23 million in space. With Bam in the fold it doesn't seem like a terrible idea especially if we could get someone like Randle back.

Handle is the bad kind of tweener. Do not want.

[MettaWorldPanda]

How about this trade : http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9xvthmr

Hassan + TJ (or Rich) + W. Ellington
for
Ingram + Deng + Lopez


Dragic
TJ
Ingram
Kelly
Bam

Young, well balanced.

It fails in the trade machine and the Lakers probably don't want any part of TJ's contract. I have Lopez and Randle for Whiteside as the deal that makes the most sense. Gives us a young player in return with potential and cap space.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Then we'd be building around Dragic...this late in the game. With a rookie who plays closest like Hassan than Frye.

Man our front office has really dropped the ball with direction. I want to ask Lebatard if there really is a serious issue with them. The answer for years has been build around Wade. But now it's like they have no idea what to do.

Trading Hassan for Lopez and let's say young asset let's say Randle would be like sort of hitting the reset button a bit an opening up 23 million in space. With Bam in the fold it doesn't seem like a terrible idea especially if we could get someone like Randle back.

Handle is the bad kind of tweener. Do not want.

Young asset who's availible

[KingDavid]

How about this trade : http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9xvthmr

Hassan + TJ (or Rich) + W. Ellington
for
Ingram + Deng + Lopez


Dragic
TJ
Ingram
Kelly
Bam

Young, well balanced.

It would be one hell of a gamble for the Lakers to drop Ingram for Hassan while hoping Lonzo grows and meshes with Hassan.

I just don't see it happening. But that kid is so good at passing...hm, have to bring it up to laker fans.

[KingDavid]

Trading Hassan for Lopez and let's say young asset let's say Randle would be like sort of hitting the reset button a bit an opening up 23 million in space. With Bam in the fold it doesn't seem like a terrible idea especially if we could get someone like Randle back.

Handle is the bad kind of tweener. Do not want.

Young asset who's availible

For us to flip? Handle doesn't seem like he'd work well anywhere except GSW and SAS.

[Kobewade11]

Feels like most of us expected a much better start, both in record and level of play.

Want to check the collective pulse, how do you see things developing?

Reminder : our pick is top 8 protected this year, so any pick from #9 to #30 will go straight to the Suns. Pick in the 1-8 range stays with us. but this means that if we keep the pick this year, next season we'll have to give the Suns our pick regardless of where it falls (1-30).

Not that it makes much of a difference but the pick is top 7 protected, so we would keep 1-7

I like your Ingram/Lopez trade proposal. Need to add McGruder or Okaro to make it work financially but I'd be all over it.

[RexBoyWonder]

Don't want Randle. Old school player.

Ingram, J. Parker, give me a dynamic wing scorer.

[KingDavid]

Don't want Randle. Old school player.

Ingram, J. Parker, give me a dynamic wing scorer.

Ah, Parker is a wing scorer?

Now I'm interested...

[Mos_Heat]

Whiteside is not a player you build around offensively. I prefer a star wing scorer for that. But you can build around Whiteside defensively. It takes both offense, & defense to win not just one.

That's the thing - I don't think you can build around Hassan DEFENSIVLY either.

Too many quick, outside shooting big man on other teams. They draw him out of the paint, and then he becomes a sub par defender due to lack of speed and being uncomfterable.

On offense, he can't pass, and basically very underutilized because we don't have the necessary elite shooting to put around him.

I think You have to be quick/decent passer/outside shooter to be a legit corner stone in todays league.

I partially agree with this, he's pretty bad pick'n'pop defender.

[Mos_Heat]

I think giving them tj would work better than Winslow.

They wouldn't want TJ. They already have a TJ type much cheaper in Clarkson.

What do they need?

Cap space next summer. They are chasing Lebron and George, they need to clear out their cap. There is 0 chance they will trade Ingram or even Clarkson for Hassan

[Mos_Heat]

Probably 7-8 seed and a gentleman sweep in the first round

[El Alonzo scowl]

I think we're a low seed playoff team. If we don't make it, Spo has to go. 3 out of 4 post-Cabrón years in the lottery is completely unacceptable. In the meantime, we should be looking to dump TJ's contract by trade deadline.

[LordRiley]

Thank god Lord Riley runs the team. You don’t trade your best player when the team already sucks. You look to move the trash first. Winslow, Waiters, JJ, Dragic should all be moved first before anyone else.

[Kobewade11]

Thank god Lord Riley runs the team. You don’t trade your best player when the team already sucks. You look to move the trash first. Winslow, Waiters, JJ, Dragic should all be moved first before anyone else.

JJ/Winslow aren't netting anything of significance right now. Waiters might. Dragic would, and Hassan definitely would. If you think your lord Riley considers anyone untouchable you might be severely disappointed in a couple of months.

[Wiltside]

God damn I want me some of that Top 4 lotto action. Unfortunately, we aren't going to suck enough to get anywhere close.

If we hand PHX over a lottery pick this season I'm gonna be pissed.

There's a lot of overlapping skillsets on this team, it's really a bit of a mish-mash misplaced roster. They caught lightning in a bottle, but that's all it was apparently.

I think we're going to have to deal TJ, but unfortunately it's probably going to mean including Winslow in any deal. No one is willingly taking on TJ's 2 years of $19m per without getting something in return.

Perhaps the Kings would look at it, as they know they aren't competing.

Tyler Johnson + Justise Winslow for Garrett Temple (2yrs $8m) + Skal Labissiere. We lose out on talent pretty big, but that's the cost of shedding a huge contract we should never have matched. At least we get back an intriguing piece in Skal. Sacramento have a ton of bigs and don't have much in the way of SF's, so may wish to experiment and see if Winslow can develop there at the wing spot.

MIAMI

Dragic / Walton Jr.
Waiters / Ellington
Richardson (sigh) / Temple
Labissiere / JJ / Mickey
Whiteside / Olynyk / Adebayo

SACRAMENTO

Hill / Fox
Hield / TJ / Richardson
Winslow / Bogdanovic / Jackson / Carter
Randolph
WCS / Koufos / Papagiannis / Giles

Kings are a little lean at the 4 now, but assume they would small ball plenty with Winny at the 4 with a bunch of shooters too. Plus they very well could pick up Bagley or someone in the upcoming draft. If required, we could throw in Mickey and take back Malachi Richardson or someone immediately cuttable (Cooley, Sampson).

Look, it's pretty unbalanced still - we'd need to acquire some more wing depth, but it'd get rid of the TJ problem. I'd hate to quit on Justise - I think my thoughts on him are well known at this point.