Flash4thewin wrote:RexBoyWonder wrote:MartyConlonJr wrote:What is happening with AD is good for us - NO denies him in trade to LA, he gets traded somewhere else that is not his desire and then realises by end of 19-20 season that Lebron is too old and that he can't win in LA with 2/3 or the cap space used on him and Bron. Clipps already have Kawhi and something, Knicks have Kyrie and KD. Miami can be as attractive as anyone after those few meccas if he tries FA
Then the argument of high ceiling home run picks is less important. You want more contributors that would make a superstar think he can be the man, but also have enough to win.
C - Bam Adebayo / Kelly Olynyk
PF - Anthony Davis / James Johnson
SF - Josh Richardson / ?
SG - Dion Waiters / ?
PG - Justise Winslow / ?
Getting two more contributors that are starter level or good bench players could be the difference in this and the next draft in enticing AD.
sadly it seems most current stars like Davis don't want the pressure of leading as the the lone star on a team.
I think you might be overrating the appeal of of our nice good but not elite young pieces.
Yea overrating is an understatement. Stars want to play with Star. The worse part is Waiter is put as a starter like that’s a positive. This organization has regressed so badly and its been self inflicted moves, no one to blame but ourself. No one forced Pat to make those moves that would have gotten any other GM rightfully fired. Waiters, JJ, we got luck the Suns did us a favor by taking Tyler Johnson. Being frank and objective it looks like major changes are needed from the top down in this organization.
Overrating maybe.
I see Winslow as a possible All-Star in 2020. Even at his current ability since December he would be a 16.5/6.5/5.5 on 46/40/60 if his minutes were bumped to 36 mpg (minutes I think/hope he will see with Tyler, Ellington, Wade and McGruder all probably gone, possibly even Dragic at some point). I expect him to improve a bit and wouldn't be surprised with an 18/7/6 season next year at 23 years old, with elite D on the other end.
Bam, since All-Star break is putting up per36 16.3/10.4/4.5/1.3/1.4 on 62.5 FG% and 81.4 FT%. I see him continuing to improve dramatically and take more and more minutes and also start to get his usage up much more.
So I see these two as being highly enticing players by end of next season. I see J-Rich being largely what he is now, hopefully more efficient at the ball gets taken out of his hands a little more by Winslow, and being a supporting 3&D player.
Waiters I originally had on the bench with J-Rich as starting SG and SF as '?'. But even as a starter this season, Dion is 16.2/4/4.2 on 42/41/58. To be clear I do not rate him highly, that chart was just a team breakdown of contracted players, but he hasn't been too bad since a rusty start and would be an ok bench scorer.
I would have thrown a potential draftee in at SG or SF to fill this out instead, but I don't know the players well enough to comment. Give me a solid contributing 6'8 or 6'9 SF with the 15th pick that doesn't have the worlds highest ceiling, but fits what we are doing and has some potential to boot, and I'll be happy that Winslow and Bams growth this playoffs and next season will have this team looking attractive for the 2020 FA class.
