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Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread

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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1181 » by JLop » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:24 am

Bishop45 wrote:Wall isn't good enough to be the best player on a championship team and his contract is too big to get multiple stars on board without gutting your team

Big NO THANKS. Best we could offer for Beal is Rich+Whiteside, so we should just stop talking about this now


Bradley Beal and Josh Richardson have very similar statistics. Between those two, Josh Richardson is the most efficient shooter beyond the three point line and is earning a salary of $ 9,367,200, while Bradley Beal is earning $ 25,434,263. Involving Josh Richardson in a deal to acquire Bradley Beal makes no sense.

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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1182 » by Bishop45 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:25 am

I feel like Pelicans swoop in to try to get Wall, they have a weird fetish for odd basketball pairings. Hopefully Wall waives his trade kicker so that can happen and either set AD out the door or keep the Lakers out the Playoffs
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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1183 » by ElDoggo » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:25 am

JLop wrote:By February 8 (trade deadline) if the Miami Heat decides to acquire John Wall, he must rest for the remainder of the season. The acquisition of a player like Zion Williamson or Cameron Reddish should be our priority. In any case, would you guys be willing to trade Goran Dragic, Dion Waiters and Justise Winslow in exchange for John Wall, Markieff Morris (1 year remaining) and a trade exception?

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We could face free agency with a nucleus of John Wall, Josh Richardson and Cameron Reddish.


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no. Wall sucks.
(ok he doesnt suck but him with that contract does.)
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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1184 » by Bourne85 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:29 am

We trade for Wall and ill be officially done with this franchise. They just seem hell bent on wrong move after wrong move for years now. Time to take a step back, realize Riley built his worst team of his career and let it die, dont compound the issue with a super max bum like Wall

Keep losing like we have been doing and things will correct themselves. Cavs had Lebron, then Kyrie, another 1st pick which they misjudged in Bennet, now will get Williamson or another top pick. They are doing it right, either your contending or your in top 3 pick territory, anything else is garbage and being sold to you fans as "culture" "we dont tank". Time to remove these outdated views, thats not how to build a winner anymore.
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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1185 » by pelifan » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:29 am

Bishop45 wrote:I feel like Pelicans swoop in to try to get Wall, they have a weird fetish for odd basketball pairings. Hopefully Wall waives his trade kicker so that can happen and either set AD out the door or keep the Lakers out the Playoffs

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Post#1186 » by Bishop45 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:30 am

JLop wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:Wall isn't good enough to be the best player on a championship team and his contract is too big to get multiple stars on board without gutting your team

Big NO THANKS. Best we could offer for Beal is Rich+Whiteside, so we should just stop talking about this now


Bradley Beal and Josh Richardson have very similar statistics. Between those two, Josh Richardson is the most efficient shooter beyond the three point line and is earning a salary of $ 9,367,200, while Bradley Beal is earning $ 25,434,263. Involving Josh Richardson in a deal to acquire Bradley Beal makes no sense.



Beal is objectively better and playing next to another #1 option, you guys want a star then that's what it cost rn. If not, then you could forget about it
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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1187 » by Bishop45 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:35 am

pelifan wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:I feel like Pelicans swoop in to try to get Wall, they have a weird fetish for odd basketball pairings. Hopefully Wall waives his trade kicker so that can happen and either set AD out the door or keep the Lakers out the Playoffs

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Oh, hi, Peli!

Wat are u doing here?!?
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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1188 » by pelifan » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:39 am

Bishop45 wrote:
pelifan wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:I feel like Pelicans swoop in to try to get Wall, they have a weird fetish for odd basketball pairings. Hopefully Wall waives his trade kicker so that can happen and either set AD out the door or keep the Lakers out the Playoffs

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Oh, hi, Peli!

Wat are u doing here?!?


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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1189 » by Pure_Basketball » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:53 am

I wasn't a fan of picking up Jimmy Butler due to age and what his next contract would be worth, but getting Bradley Beal should be our number one priority. Only 25 so he will have a good 6-7 years with Miami before he starts declining. We need to throw all our assets (not many) to try and get him.
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Post#1190 » by Pure_Basketball » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:59 am

Bishop45 wrote:I'd assume that Wiz will get better offers for Beal but Rich/Whiteside the best offer we could give? Great contract in Rich, great expiree in Whiteside?

It would be ideal if we could keep J Rich, I think that Rich and Beal would be a good duo to build around.
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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1191 » by Bishop45 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:14 am

Pure_Basketball wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:I'd assume that Wiz will get better offers for Beal but Rich/Whiteside the best offer we could give? Great contract in Rich, great expiree in Whiteside?

It would be ideal if we could keep J Rich, I think that Rich and Beal would be a good duo to build around.


Unfortunately, idyllic realities aren't always possible. In which case, we will likely not profit from this at all. Wizards will certainly get better offers, this is not worth our time
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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1192 » by twix2500 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:48 am

Your gonna give up young future prospects for Beal. So basically 2019 pick would have to be traded along with Richardson.

Oppose to Wall I do not think a pick or any future young talent would have to be giving. Just salary dump. Likely wouldn't be dealt till the summer. So you will have your 2019 pick and Wall.

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Post#1193 » by twix2500 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:26 am

Getting John Wall as a salary dump this summer. As an example Whiteside and TJ for John Wall and Dwight. Green means expiring contract year. This is what I envision the scenario would present the Heat this summer. He will likely be dealt during the summer because of his trade kicker.

Heat would have a full roster, not losing any young prospects. Will have trading chips to make more moves.Image

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Post#1194 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:47 am

here we go again

another month of speculating about trading for a star player... this time John Wall
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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1195 » by twix2500 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:49 am

Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:here we go again

another month of speculating about trading for a star player... this time John Wall
Better than speculating when Winslow gonna make a layup the next 3 yrs

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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1196 » by HeatIn5 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:10 am

twix2500 wrote:
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:here we go again

another month of speculating about trading for a star player... this time John Wall
Better than speculating when Winslow gonna make a layup the next 3 yrs

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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1197 » by Mos_Heat » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:08 am

Bishop45 wrote:I'd assume that Wiz will get better offers for Beal but Rich/Whiteside the best offer we could give? Great contract in Rich, great expiree in Whiteside?

Rich+Oly would be better since they already have Dwight.

But yeah, his contract's too good for our packages
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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1198 » by broke » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:21 am

No one here is seriously thinking Wall is worth trading for are they? Even Beal is only worth trying for if we can keep Rich in the process as this season they're kinda the same player.
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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1199 » by puppa bear » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:53 am

broke wrote:No one here is seriously thinking Wall is worth trading for are they? Even Beal is only worth trying for if we can keep Rich in the process as this season they're kinda the same player.

If we can get Wall for Dragic or less then I’m for it, especially if he waived his trade kicker - as long as it’s part of an attempt at putting together another contender via trades.

I want Riley to go full throttle one way or another. At the moment the team is just treading water, but not developing the kids as intensively as they could. We look like we’re trying to win, but failing. Last time we did that we ended up playing ourselves out of a potential top-5 pick. This year that could cost us a shot at Zion/RJ/Cam/Nassir/Bol/Q - I’d rather see a concerted effort at either a top-5 pick or putting together a legit contender.
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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1200 » by goodboy » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:59 am

I'm in for Beal.

Wall, no.

If Wizards are cleaning house with Wall (whoever would take him) and Beal.

Dragic/Whiteside and Winslow for Beal isn't a horrible deal. Although I'm sure other offers will be compelling.

Would hate to give away Rich already.
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