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Robin Lopez and Bari open on the market (eyes emoji) I wouldn't mind having Robin backing up Bam and perhaps testing Olynyk por Bari

Oh yea, puc you OP. eat a dick

in for the hunt

MartyConlonJr wrote:

caliban wrote:
DEN
TOR
MIL
GSW
HOU
BOS

Outside of being the 6 best teams in the league when healthy, What do they have incommon?

Is it that they tanked their way to top 3 picks in the last quarter century that scored them a HOF player who won them championships?

Denver - Carmelo Anthony, Raef LaFreantz
Toronto - Andrea Bargnani, Marcus Camby
Milwaukee - Jabari Parker, Andrew Bogut, Glenn Robinson
Golden State - Mike Dunleavy, Joe Smith
Houston - Yao Ming

oh wait

Bingo.

Off the top of my head. Non of them tanked for a top 5 pick with their current core.

Okay, so an idea was floated on the T&T board (can’t remember by who - buts it’s definitely not my idea). In the Green thread, someone floated a Green for JJ/1st trade - not sure they would take it without an extra piece, but it does save them $2.8m on the cap, and considering the tax bill is around $90m this year that may be enough of an incentive. If not, I would think adding in DJJ could be enough to bring it close, though I would rather keep him.

Putting aside the unlikeliness of them trading Green (realistically it only happens if KD walks into the FO and says “it’s him or me”, and then Curry signs off on the idea), this could be a way for the Heat to re-enter contention status:

Trade JJ/DJJ/1st for Green
Trade Dragic for Wall

Wall/TJ/Waiters
McGruder/Wade/Ellington
Richardson/Justise
Green/KO
Whiteside/Bam

The tax payments next year won’t be fun, but that’s a team that could go to the ECF. TJ & Hassan expire after next year, so we can possibly still be a good team while dipping back under the tax (Green/Bam/KO power rotation with Winslow also getting minutes as a PF), or use their expiring deals to trade for a disgruntled all-star.

puppa bear wrote:Okay, so an idea was floated on the T&T board (can’t remember by who - buts it’s definitely not my idea). In the Green thread, someone floated a Green for JJ/1st trade - not sure they would take it without an extra piece, but it does save them $2.8m on the cap, and considering the tax bill is around $90m this year that may be enough of an incentive. If not, I would think adding in DJJ could be enough to bring it close, though I would rather keep him.

Putting aside the unlikeliness of them trading Green (realistically it only happens if KD walks into the FO and says “it’s him or me”, and then Curry signs off on the idea), this could be a way for the Heat to re-enter contention status:

Trade JJ/DJJ/1st for Green
Trade Dragic for Wall

Wall/TJ/Waiters
McGruder/Wade/Ellington
Richardson/Justise
Green/KO
Whiteside/Bam

The tax payments next year won’t be fun, but that’s a team that could go to the ECF. TJ & Hassan expire after next year, so we can possibly still be a good team while dipping back under the tax (Green/Bam/KO power rotation with Winslow also getting minutes as a PF), or use their expiring deals to trade for a disgruntled all-star.

No way I'd ever trade a first for Draymond under any circumstances. We have what could be an emerging 6'5/6'6 talent at point guard, I'm far more intrigued to see what he can do as opposed to trading for Wall's contract. That team isn't a contender. Wall and Green are shooting 30 and 22% from 3, add Hassan and that is the most horrific lineup in the league from a spacing perspective. Winslow has been playing the best basketball of his career at point, I couldn't rationalize moving him behind Richardson and giving him spot minutes at power forward.

puppa bear wrote:Okay, so an idea was floated on the T&T board (can’t remember by who - buts it’s definitely not my idea). In the Green thread, someone floated a Green for JJ/1st trade - not sure they would take it without an extra piece, but it does save them $2.8m on the cap, and considering the tax bill is around $90m this year that may be enough of an incentive. If not, I would think adding in DJJ could be enough to bring it close, though I would rather keep him.

Putting aside the unlikeliness of them trading Green (realistically it only happens if KD walks into the FO and says “it’s him or me”, and then Curry signs off on the idea), this could be a way for the Heat to re-enter contention status:

Trade JJ/DJJ/1st for Green
Trade Dragic for Wall

Wall/TJ/Waiters
McGruder/Wade/Ellington
Richardson/Justise
Green/KO
Whiteside/Bam

The tax payments next year won’t be fun, but that’s a team that could go to the ECF. TJ & Hassan expire after next year, so we can possibly still be a good team while dipping back under the tax (Green/Bam/KO power rotation with Winslow also getting minutes as a PF), or use their expiring deals to trade for a disgruntled all-star.

Puppa, I would be all over the Green for JJ/1st trade as long as the first is lottery protected.

I wouldn't trade Dragic for Wall though because of the tax implications. We need to dump long-term salary to make up for Wall's balloon. Just keep Dragic and move him to the bench.

#PointJustise

The pass four games The Johnson's have been coming into their own.

James Johnson offensive rating the pass 4 games is averaging at 143.75.
Tyler Johnson offensive rating the pass 7 games is averaging at 118.5.

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Long time no see, Heat Board. It's been a busy couple of months, find it difficult to follow the team as closely.

Recently started to keep a closer eye though and the team has started to play better as well. My high hopes of the Bam-Justise-Rich trio continue to go higher, I think we have one of the most underrated young cores in the league atm.

The GB is convinced that the Heat have no sense of direction and are stuck in a terrible position, but I don't think they're paying attention. (rhyme not intended)

MettaWorldPanda wrote:

soon

Mion Hallelujah

Point Justise is a last heave hope that we can turn WinSlow into an nba level player. I personally don’t think it will work, he doesn’t have the ball handling, playmaking, or shooting that is needed from a point guard. He isn’t Simmons, he isn’t Draymond.

This is a copy cat league, the teams followed along as the Warriors shoot 3s and 3s. Now all teams chuck 3s without having the right players. Philly has Simmons an oversized “Point Guard” playing that position because he wouldn’t cut it as anything else with that broken shot. Just because Philly gets away with it doesn’t mean teams should be copying that formula. Simmons also has much better ball handling, playmaking and is far bigger than Justice.

Raise that value and trade him while his value is rising as a pseudo “PG” is what should be doing. He won’t cut it as a PG in this league, but sadly that maybe the only way to salvage his value by bringing up his numbers a bit. Raise his value and get us a trade. No team will win anything with WinSlow running point.

Although I'd want a pick primarily, and I tend to want to see Bam play PF more than C, wouldn't mind Olynyk/Ellington(If he wouldn't mind) for Bari. Maybe in a 3-way that gets Ellington on a desired team and gets Heat a second rder or something for our troubles

Bourne85 wrote:Point Justise is a last heave hope that we can turn WinSlow into an nba level player. I personally don’t think it will work, he doesn’t have the ball handling, playmaking, or shooting that is needed from a point guard. He isn’t Simmons, he isn’t Draymond.

This is a copy cat league, the teams followed along as the Warriors shoot 3s and 3s. Now all teams chuck 3s without having the right players. Philly has Simmons an oversized “Point Guard” playing that position because he wouldn’t cut it as anything else with that broken shot. Just because Philly gets away with it doesn’t mean teams should be copying that formula. Simmons also has much better ball handling, playmaking and is far bigger than Justice.

Raise that value and trade him while his value is rising as a pseudo “PG” is what should be doing. He won’t cut it as a PG in this league, but sadly that maybe the only way to salvage his value by bringing up his numbers a bit. Raise his value and get us a trade. No team will win anything with WinSlow running point.

Don't know how you can make a post like this when this team's recent success correlates with Winslow's improved shooting. Stating that Winslow can't play PG because he isn't as good of a passer as Simmons is like saying Beal is a bad SG because he doesn't score as much as Harden. You sound like the ultimate Winslow hater .

Bishop45 wrote:Although I'd want a pick primarily, and I tend to want to see Bam play PF more than C, wouldn't mind Olynyk/Ellington(If he wouldn't mind) for Bari. Maybe in a 3-way that gets Ellington on a desired team and gets Heat a second rder or something for our troubles

You guys need to stop doing this thing where you trade decent players for fresh trash. Olynyk and Ellington for a player like Jabari? Where's the sense in this? He plays no defense and his offense is mediocre. If a team like the Bulls don't want him why should we?

Don’t get me wrong, the Vice jerseys look pretty dope...but I kinda just miss our standard black or white jerseys tbh. Feels like we rarely wear them anymore.