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2019 NBA Draft Konnichiwa Arigato Gozaimasu

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Who do you want with 13th pick?

Rui Hachimura
15
15%
Romeo Langford
12
12%
Darius Garland
6
6%
Bol Bol
13
13%
Nassir Little
10
10%
Kevin Porter Jr.
10
10%
Coby White
10
10%
Brandon Clarke
6
6%
Keldon Johnson
4
4%
Other(Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Talen Horton-Tucker, etc,.)
17
17%
 
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Post#1861 » by twix2500 » Thu May 23, 2019 4:40 pm

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twix2500 wrote:Doesn't that say exactly what I said? The difference between KJ and RL is off the ball vs on the ball.

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Never disagreed on that. That wasn't the framing of our initial discourse where a disagreement occurred. See below:

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twix2500 wrote: He is one of the few guys that I consider has a scorer mentality. Zion, Morant, Barrett, Garland, White, K. Johnson, Cam Johnson, and Nwora.

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Langford?
Thats all i was saying, i never insinuated anything else.

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Post#1862 » by Spacely » Thu May 23, 2019 4:42 pm

So Romeo being the better slasher, more creative scorer, better PnR ball handler & better passer? It’s a no brainer at this point.
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Post#1863 » by twix2500 » Thu May 23, 2019 4:44 pm

Spacely wrote:So Romeo being the better slasher, more creative scorer, better PnR ball handler & better passer? It’s a no brainer at this point.
I just disagree on the slashing (which means cutter). KJ is better in that department.

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Post#1864 » by Spacely » Thu May 23, 2019 4:49 pm

twix2500 wrote:
Spacely wrote:So Romeo being the better slasher, more creative scorer, better PnR ball handler & better passer? It’s a no brainer at this point.
I just disagree on the slashing (which means cutter). KJ is better in that department.

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I meant as better at driving to the paint/more efficient
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Post#1865 » by twix2500 » Thu May 23, 2019 4:54 pm

The 3 shooting guards talked about, here is my rating of the three categories I evaluate on.

Romeo Langford

Talent - 8
Skills - 8
Game - 7

Keldon Johnson

Talent- 6
Skills - 8
Game - 9

Kevin Porter Jr

Talent - 9
Skills - 6
Game - 2

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Post#1866 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Thu May 23, 2019 4:56 pm

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Spacely wrote:What can Clarke do that Bam can’t already do?

nothing


I had no idea NBA basketball was played 1 v 1.

That's like asking what can Ben Simmons do that Embiid can't do.
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Post#1867 » by twix2500 » Thu May 23, 2019 4:58 pm

Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
kobewade11 wrote:
Spacely wrote:What can Clarke do that Bam can’t already do?

nothing


I had no idea NBA basketball was played 1 v 1.

That's like asking what can Simmons do that Embiid can't do.
Who said 1 vs 1?

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Post#1868 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Thu May 23, 2019 5:00 pm

twix2500 wrote:
Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
kobewade11 wrote:nothing


I had no idea NBA basketball was played 1 v 1.

That's like asking what can Simmons do that Embiid can't do.
Who said 1 vs 1?

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Why draft Ben Simmons if Embiid can essentially do everything he does?
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Post#1869 » by Bishop45 » Thu May 23, 2019 5:04 pm

Spacely wrote:What can Clarke do that Bam can’t already do?


Question is, what does he do better, with consistency?

Answer has been: everything. He's a much more astute scorer and defender, at this stage even. If you look at their intangibles, it's not an apples to apples comparison
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Post#1870 » by Spacely » Thu May 23, 2019 5:06 pm

Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
I had no idea NBA basketball was played 1 v 1.

That's like asking what can Simmons do that Embiid can't do.
Who said 1 vs 1?

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Why draft Ben Simmons if Embiid can essentially do everything he does?



Do Simmons and Embiid play damn near the same position? They on opposite sides of positions. Bam is a C/PF and can do everything Clarke can do. They wouldn’t be able to be on the floor at the same time either.
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Post#1871 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Thu May 23, 2019 5:06 pm

Lets pretend that Bam and Clarke wouldn't be the best defensive front-court in the NBA.
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Post#1872 » by twix2500 » Thu May 23, 2019 5:07 pm

Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
I had no idea NBA basketball was played 1 v 1.

That's like asking what can Simmons do that Embiid can't do.
Who said 1 vs 1?

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Why draft Ben Simmons if Embiid can essentially do everything he does?
They play two different positions and two different roles. Clarke and Bam play the same position and the same role. The 5 spot Image

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Post#1873 » by twix2500 » Thu May 23, 2019 5:09 pm

Question did Clarke play against big players in his conference? If so were they any good?

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Post#1874 » by Spacely » Thu May 23, 2019 5:11 pm

Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:Lets pretend that Bam and Clarke wouldn't be the best defensive front-court in the NBA.



Let’s also pretend our offense wouldn’t be pure dumpster juice too with no spacing.
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Post#1875 » by twix2500 » Thu May 23, 2019 5:13 pm

We all know Spo like midget basketball so Clarke may be the guy.

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Post#1876 » by Spacely » Thu May 23, 2019 5:16 pm

Bishop45 wrote:
Spacely wrote:What can Clarke do that Bam can’t already do?


Question is, what does he do better, with consistency?

Answer has been: everything. He's a much more astute scorer and defender, at this stage even. If you look at their intangibles, it's not an apples to apples comparison


Yeah against college players, once he goes up against the big boys he will be a shell of himself.
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Post#1877 » by Bishop45 » Thu May 23, 2019 5:20 pm

Spacely wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:
Spacely wrote:What can Clarke do that Bam can’t already do?


Question is, what does he do better, with consistency?

Answer has been: everything. He's a much more astute scorer and defender, at this stage even. If you look at their intangibles, it's not an apples to apples comparison


Yeah against college players, once he goes up against the big boys he will be a shell of himself.


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Post#1878 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Thu May 23, 2019 5:22 pm

twix2500 wrote:Question did Clarke play against big players in his conference? If so were they any good?

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Clarke averaged 24.1 PPG per 40 minutes, are we really going to question how well he performs versus big man?
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Post#1879 » by Bishop45 » Thu May 23, 2019 5:23 pm

twix2500 wrote:Question did Clarke play against big players in his conference? If so were they any good?

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Played against your boy Kabengele and FL states 7'4 Center, I'd say he fared well. Played bigger players all yr, at every level
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Post#1880 » by twix2500 » Thu May 23, 2019 5:24 pm

Bishop45 wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Question did Clarke play against big players in his conference? If so were they any good?

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Played against your boy Kabengele and FL states 7'4 Center, I'd say he fared well. Played bigger players all yr, at every level
Kabengele matched up vs Rui

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