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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2019 3:17 pm
by contract
abark wrote:
contract wrote:
Hoops23 wrote:Good to see Tyler Herro appreciation in here.
Two weeks ago, a lot of haters came out and even calling Pat Riley to step down because they dont like the pick.
Now what!?! ha ha ha :lol:

Summer League tends to do that. Which is why I like to remind everyone every year that Summer League is not NBA basketball.

We all know to take Summer League for what it is. Tim Duncan looked horrible in SL and finished fifth in MVP voting his rookie year. Trey Young also looked like trash last year.

But you can't pretend there isn't some correlation between rookie SL performance and future success, even if it's minor.

Gilgeous Alexander's play last year made me think he might have what it took to be a future star, and right now he looks to have the brightest future of the guys outside the top 5-6.

Basically, if Tyler was looking terrible, I'd be a little concerned, but I wouldn't be trashing him.

But when your 19 year old rookie is averaging 20, 3.5, 3.5, and 2 through the first 3 games, it is encouraging.

He's shooting ... 36.7% FG ... 36.7 3FG% ... 100% FT ... if the stats found online can be believed.

Lets tap the brakes. All summer league is telling me is that we're asking Herro to take a lot of shots.

Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2019 3:21 pm
by JustiseForMiami
contract wrote:
abark wrote:
contract wrote:Summer League tends to do that. Which is why I like to remind everyone every year that Summer League is not NBA basketball.

We all know to take Summer League for what it is. Tim Duncan looked horrible in SL and finished fifth in MVP voting his rookie year. Trey Young also looked like trash last year.

But you can't pretend there isn't some correlation between rookie SL performance and future success, even if it's minor.

Gilgeous Alexander's play last year made me think he might have what it took to be a future star, and right now he looks to have the brightest future of the guys outside the top 5-6.

Basically, if Tyler was looking terrible, I'd be a little concerned, but I wouldn't be trashing him.

But when your 19 year old rookie is averaging 20, 3.5, 3.5, and 2 through the first 3 games, it is encouraging.

He's shooting ... 36.7% FG ... 36.7 3FG% ... 100% FT ... if the stats found online can be believed.

Lets tap the brakes. All summer league is telling me is that we're asking Herro to take a lot of shots.


To me the things I see in Herro that excite me are not the shooting. It's the willingness to pass (and make crisp passes when he does). The attempt to get in on loose balls and rebounds and hustle plays.

I don't care that he is shooting a low %, he is getting to the right spots and putting himself in position.

From a pure basketball standpoint, yea we can probably pump the breaks.

But looking as a coach, which means I try to look at it as neutral as possible without my fandom, Herro has a TON of very very good traits and he definitely stands out anytime you watch us play.

Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2019 4:15 pm
by abark
contract wrote:
abark wrote:
contract wrote:Summer League tends to do that. Which is why I like to remind everyone every year that Summer League is not NBA basketball.

We all know to take Summer League for what it is. Tim Duncan looked horrible in SL and finished fifth in MVP voting his rookie year. Trey Young also looked like trash last year.

But you can't pretend there isn't some correlation between rookie SL performance and future success, even if it's minor.

Gilgeous Alexander's play last year made me think he might have what it took to be a future star, and right now he looks to have the brightest future of the guys outside the top 5-6.

Basically, if Tyler was looking terrible, I'd be a little concerned, but I wouldn't be trashing him.

But when your 19 year old rookie is averaging 20, 3.5, 3.5, and 2 through the first 3 games, it is encouraging.

He's shooting ... 36.7% FG ... 36.7 3FG% ... 100% FT ... if the stats found online can be believed.

Lets tap the brakes. All summer league is telling me is that we're asking Herro to take a lot of shots.

They can be believed.

But this actually brings me to my personal crusade against the use of FG% at all. Herro's True Shooting % has actually been 55.3%, which was league average last year.

He hits a ton of 3's and does not miss FT's. So by definition, he is a player that FG% will never fairly represent in terms of depicting his scoring efficiency.

Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2019 4:27 pm
by rate_
contract wrote:
Spoiler:
abark wrote:
contract wrote:Summer League tends to do that. Which is why I like to remind everyone every year that Summer League is not NBA basketball.

We all know to take Summer League for what it is. Tim Duncan looked horrible in SL and finished fifth in MVP voting his rookie year. Trey Young also looked like trash last year.

But you can't pretend there isn't some correlation between rookie SL performance and future success, even if it's minor.

Gilgeous Alexander's play last year made me think he might have what it took to be a future star, and right now he looks to have the brightest future of the guys outside the top 5-6.

Basically, if Tyler was looking terrible, I'd be a little concerned, but I wouldn't be trashing him.

But when your 19 year old rookie is averaging 20, 3.5, 3.5, and 2 through the first 3 games, it is encouraging.

He's shooting ... 36.7% FG ... 36.7 3FG% ... 100% FT ... if the stats found online can be believed.

Lets tap the brakes. All summer league is telling me is that we're asking Herro to take a lot of shots.

33.07 PER | 20/3/3/2 | 2.5 AST/TO | 55.3% TS | +79 (83.1 minutes played) | .508 WS/48

Those are dominant numbers. Even with the 36.7% FG, his TS is still at a decent 55.3%.

Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2019 4:40 pm
by Bishop45
So we can put this blithe draft behind us

2020 possibilities', wearing a safe pick filter this time about



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And The new walking Bucket. 6'9 with 6'9 Wingspan; almost like Herro and TJ Leaf had a baby


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1 out of 4 Canadians can actually play basketball, the defensive minded ones usually fare better


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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2019 5:56 pm
by Rafly
I really like Hurt. But I have some real big concerns of what he’ll be able to defend. More so than Herro. I’m also kinda intrigued to see Vernon Carey but not sure he fits down here. It’s all moot though cause we’ll be picking in the 20’s.

Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2019 6:28 pm
by Bishop45
Rafly wrote:I really like Hurt. But I have some real big concerns of what he’ll be able to defend. More so than Herro. I’m also kinda intrigued to see Vernon Carey but not sure he fits down here. It’s all moot though cause we’ll be picking in the 20’s.


Some of these guys are mocked closer to the 20's

And did you see Herro get crossed by one of the guys on the Chinese national team? quite worried about his defense too

Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2019 11:10 pm
by twix2500
The two bigs I was interested in looking good in summer league.


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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:31 am
by Rafly
Bishop45 wrote:
Rafly wrote:I really like Hurt. But I have some real big concerns of what he’ll be able to defend. More so than Herro. I’m also kinda intrigued to see Vernon Carey but not sure he fits down here. It’s all moot though cause we’ll be picking in the 20’s.


Some of these guys are mocked closer to the 20's

And did you see Herro get crossed by one of the guys on the Chinese national team? quite worried about his defense too

Fortunately they have a pick in this draft. Just took a quick glance and it looks pretty damn deep. Doesn’t seem to have a Consensus top player. But its deep. Also fortunately, Riley can’t trade it. :D

Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Mon Jul 8, 2019 9:26 am
by Bishop45
Lotta guards


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Probably not our range, but a few mocks have him in the 20's. Fake Simmons without fear of jumpshots

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Luv Kentucky guys, as we do

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:18 pm
by somerandomdude
Tyler Herro had a Heat jersey as a kid :D

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:24 pm
by somerandomdude
Went back and watched the Riley conference on Herro

Things I found interested:
- He's done with Duke players
- Addresses the haters (politely, though)


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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:38 am
by Heat3
Let's hope Tyler has some games like this:


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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:54 am
by delanka
Chalm Down wrote:trade herro


Why?

Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:44 am
by Chalm Down
delanka wrote:
Chalm Down wrote:trade herro


Why?


y not

Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:46 am
by Rafly
Chalm Down wrote:
delanka wrote:
Chalm Down wrote:trade herro


Why?


y not

Just because

Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:07 am
by delanka
Chalm Down wrote:
delanka wrote:
Chalm Down wrote:trade herro


Why?


y not

IggieCC wrote:
Spoiler:
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:35 pm
by IggieCC
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what is this thread? :x

Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:03 pm
by eddieheatfan
somerandomdude wrote:Went back and watched the Riley conference on Herro

Things I found interested:
- He's done with Duke players
- Addresses the haters (politely, though)

yeah am optimist about herro but i guess people wanted the heat to get bol bol as he seems to be a pretty dominant and versatile center but time will tell if the heat erred on that moving him to denver


also that rex chapman video sums up what the heat culture has been since riley took the helm of front office.cabron's leaving miami messed him up though

Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:37 pm
by IggieCC
somerandomdude wrote:Went back and watched the Riley conference on Herro

Things I found interested:
- He's done with Duke players
- Addresses the haters (politely, though)


what did he say specifically about Bishop and Chalm Down?