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2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me?

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Re: 2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me? 

Post#1841 » by Flash4thewin » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:04 pm

DefenseWins wrote:Winslow, Bam, Herro? That makes me sick. Too much.

Bare in mind Richardson was a fan favorite, got better every year, and we still traded him for Butler. I know thag nobody is safe, but damn I’d like to keep atleast one youngin’. :(


If thats the price you take it and run. This is Pat, he want to win now, hes not going to half ass it like the Celtic trying to win now, and build for the future, look at where that got them. We dont have draft picks to trade so somethings got to give. We need to have confidence that this organization can mold Westbrook into a better player, not stats wise but wining ways wise.
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Post#1842 » by islandHEAT » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:05 pm

Westbrook OR Beal & Wall (while keeping the kids)?
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Post#1843 » by HIF » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:05 pm

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DefenseWins wrote:Winslow, Bam, Herro? That makes me sick. Too much.

Bare in mind Richardson was a fan favorite, got better every year, and we still traded him for Butler. I know thag nobody is safe, but damn I’d like to keep atleast one youngin’. :(


If thats the price you take it and run. This is Pat, he want to win now, hes not going to half ass it like the Celtic trying to win now, and build for the future, look at where that got them. We dont have draft picks to trade so somethings got to give. We need to have confidence that this organization can mold Westbrook into a better player, not stats wise but wining ways wise.


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Re: 2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me? 

Post#1844 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:06 pm

islandHEAT wrote:Westbrook OR Beal & Wall (while keeping the kids)?

Not a chance. It's all hope trafficking
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Re: 2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me? 

Post#1845 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:07 pm

I can't wait till we finally acquire KZ Okpala and see him rip up the summer league with Herro and D Rob tbh.
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Re: 2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me? 

Post#1846 » by DefenseWins » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:07 pm

islandHEAT wrote:Westbrook OR Beal & Wall (while keeping the kids)?



Wall’s contract is a chokehold and he won’t play for years. Not worth it IMO.
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Re: 2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me? 

Post#1847 » by TheDon_5 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:10 pm

Do we absolutely have to make room today for Jimmys trade to go down?

When is the deadline for this to become official?
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Re: 2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me? 

Post#1848 » by JustiseForMiami » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:12 pm

i could see Riley giving up Winslow - he did say he wants less Dukies

Can't see him giving up Bam/Herro though - Let's hypothetically hypothetically hypothetically say it's Winslow, Goran and James Johnson for Westbrook (works salary wise: they get 1 youngin and 2 shorter deals. We could also swap DJJ for Burton or Nader to make it a little more fair - and a pick swap which will never happen)

Would this team win the East?

Westbrook / Vet FA / Nunn
Herro / Waiters
Jimmy / KZ / Duncan
Bam / Kelly / Yante
Boogie / Leonard / Haslem

You do whatever it takes if you think you can win the East

You know... since we're getting crazy... that team does need one more bench guard... maybe one from Marquette?
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Re: 2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me? 

Post#1849 » by Dr_Heat » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:13 pm

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Re: 2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me? 

Post#1850 » by rickyt31 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:17 pm

Now that I'm thinking about it, do you think Pat is trying to win now because of the amount of time he may have in that role? He might be thinking about retiring. So building 3-5 years from now might not be a part of his plans.
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Re: 2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me? 

Post#1851 » by HEATVols865 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:19 pm

rickyt31 wrote:Now that I'm thinking about it, do you think Pat is trying to win now because of the amount of time he may have in that role? He might be thinking about retiring. So building 3-5 years from now might not be a part of his plans.

You just now thought of that? He’s been grooming Nick Arison and some of his former players who are in the organization to take over for him. My biggest concern is Andy...he’s not old but his health can’t be good.


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Re: 2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me? 

Post#1852 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:20 pm

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islandHEAT wrote:Westbrook OR Beal & Wall (while keeping the kids)?



Wall’s contract is a chokehold and he won’t play for years. Not worth it IMO.

Not worth it whatsoever. Need to stay patient and wait for his free agency year. Taking on Wall's contract is one of the dumbest ideas in history. Wiz already filed a med exception for him already knowing he's done for next year.
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Re: 2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me? 

Post#1853 » by JustiseForMiami » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:21 pm

rickyt31 wrote:Now that I'm thinking about it, do you think Pat is trying to win now because of the amount of time he may have in that role? He might be thinking about retiring. So building 3-5 years from now might not be a part of his plans.



Yes, however I'm 99% sure (as LeBatard has said before and he's verrrrry in touch with the heat) that Nick Arison has vetoing power on Pats moves.

At the end of the day Mickey makes the final final call, but 30 year old Nick has a TON of power as he will eventually be our majority owner and leader (to both build a FO and a team).

I don't think the 30 year old or the 48 year old coach would risk the entire future for now.




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Re: 2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me? 

Post#1854 » by rickyt31 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:23 pm

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rickyt31 wrote:Now that I'm thinking about it, do you think Pat is trying to win now because of the amount of time he may have in that role? He might be thinking about retiring. So building 3-5 years from now might not be a part of his plans.

You just now thought of that? He’s been grooming Nick Arison and some of his former players who are in the organization to take over for him. My biggest concern is Andy...he’s not old but his health can’t be good.


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I'm just thinking about the way he's building the team. Is he trying to build a win now team before he leaves or is he still considering what the next man will have to work with? If not, then I think a Beal deal will happen this year.
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Re: 2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me? 

Post#1855 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:23 pm

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Re: 2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me? 

Post#1856 » by Dr_Heat » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:23 pm

Wall or Westbrook ? Who would you rather take
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Re: 2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me? 

Post#1857 » by rickyt31 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:24 pm

JustiseForMiami wrote:
rickyt31 wrote:Now that I'm thinking about it, do you think Pat is trying to win now because of the amount of time he may have in that role? He might be thinking about retiring. So building 3-5 years from now might not be a part of his plans.



Yes, however I'm 99% sure (as LeBatard has said before and he's verrrrry in touch with the heat) that Nick Arison has vetoing power on Pats moves.

At the end of the day Mickey makes the final final call, but 30 year old Nick has a TON of power as he will eventually be our majority owner and leader (to both build a FO and a team).

I don't think the 30 year old or the 48 year old coach would risk the entire future for now.


Got it. I didn't know this part.
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Re: 2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me? 

Post#1858 » by Dr_Heat » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:25 pm

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Re: 2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me? 

Post#1859 » by HEATVols865 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:27 pm

Bring in Blake. He would be money alongside Bam


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Re: 2019 Offseason thread, Vol.: Y won't you talk to me? 

Post#1860 » by Umbooki » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:29 pm

Dr_Heat wrote:Wall or Westbrook ? Who would you rather take

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