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Re: 2019 Heat Offseason thread 3.0- South Beach SeaWorld 

Post#1741 » by Bishop45 » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:27 pm

Herro's untradeable after hof worthy SL performance, but Bish is irrational

Wap kon Jorge avec tout ti moun li
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Post#1742 » by insfo » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:27 pm

In all of these fantastic trade proposals flying around, I'm disappointed that not one of them had Noel coming our way
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Post#1743 » by The Bunk » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:28 pm

Wait, what did IRA say? He never breaks anything but if he says it I believe it.
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Post#1745 » by Chalm Down » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:29 pm

Bishop45 wrote:Herro's untradeable after hof worthy SL performance, but Bish is irrational

Wap kon Jorge avec tout ti moun li


Imma need a bishglish translation pls
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Post#1746 » by insfo » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:31 pm

Chalm Down wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:Herro's untradeable after hof worthy SL performance, but Bish is irrational

Wap kon Jorge avec tout ti moun li


Imma need a bishglish translation pls


Google translate says - "You'll be happy with all of her kids". No idea who's kids he's talking about
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Re: 2019 Heat Offseason thread 3.0- South Beach SeaWorld 

Post#1747 » by Sgt P » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:31 pm

Chalm Down wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:Herro's untradeable after hof worthy SL performance, but Bish is irrational

Wap kon Jorge avec tout ti moun li


Imma need a bishglish translation pls


You will find out about Jorge and all his kids
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Re: 2019 Heat Offseason thread 3.0- South Beach SeaWorld 

Post#1748 » by Cmon_Son-_- » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:32 pm

Out of all of our reporters Ira is the one I have the least confidence with
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Post#1749 » by MiamiSun » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:34 pm

I hope we don't have to do a "Tyler Herro Appreciation" Thread. Would he qualify if indeed he is traded?
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Post#1750 » by Rapaz » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:35 pm

Chalm Down wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:Herro's untradeable after hof worthy SL performance, but Bish is irrational

Wap kon Jorge avec tout ti moun li


Imma need a bishglish translation pls

Herro, Jorge, and all their kids will love OKC
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Re: 2019 Heat Offseason thread 3.0- South Beach SeaWorld 

Post#1751 » by Bishop45 » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:35 pm

Sgt P wrote:
Chalm Down wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:Herro's untradeable after hof worthy SL performance, but Bish is irrational

Wap kon Jorge avec tout ti moun li


Imma need a bishglish translation pls


You will find out about Jorge and all his kids


SP always in clutch lmao
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Post#1752 » by twix2500 » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:36 pm

Cmon_Son-_- wrote:Out of all of our reporters Ira is the one I have the least confidence with


Ira tells little to nothing. He is not getting paid to leak info. However, I think he is the leaker to Barry Jackson
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Post#1753 » by zgope1 » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:37 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:BARRY JACKSON
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Heat hard-cap situation raises stakes for three players. And Herro again excels in win


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The Heat, for the moment, is caught up in a numbers game, unable by league rules to sign any other players - besides Tyler Herro - without purging salary.

And that raises the stakes for three Heat summer leaguers without fully guaranteed contracts: Yante Maten, Duncan Robinson and Kendrick Nunn.

Releasing any of them before looming guarantee dates would free up the space to sign a veteran player.


And that’s why Maten’s solid 14-points, 13-rebound performance in Tuesday’s 96-92 Las Vegas Summer League win against Orlando was notable.


Once the Heat signs Herro, Miami will be less than $1 million below its hard cap of $138.9 million, a predicament that came into play when Miami acquired Jimmy Butler in a sign-and-trade.


That means the Heat, with its current roster structure, could not sign any player other than Herro, even to a minimum contract. And in order to sign a player, such as Udonis Haslem or anyone else, the Heat would need to either trim salary (perhaps through a Russell Westbrook trade) or dump one of its young players under non-guaranteed contracts: Nunn, Maten or Robinson.

For example, if one of those three were released, there would be room to sign Haslem, as a hypothetical, with his minimum deal counting $1.6 million against the cap and tax. Even a player substantially younger than Haslem would count $1.6 million against Miami’s cap and tax.

Derrick Jones Jr.’s contract is also non-guaranteed, but he’s not at risk unless he’s hypothetically included in a Westbrook trade.


The Heat has been very pleased with Nunn’s work during summer league, and Robinson also has impressed. That leaves Maten needing to make a case after an uneven start in the Las Vegas Summer League.


After playing well in two games in Sacramento (18.5 points per game and 8.5 rebounds per game), Maten entered Tuesday with seven points in two games in Las Vegas, on 5 for 16 shooting, and seven rebounds.

Maten matched his two-game Las Vegas point total in the first five minutes Tuesday, scoring the Heat’s first seven points.


Maten is guaranteed another $150,000 if he’s on the roster by Aug. 1, then another $150,00 if he’s on the team for the regular season opener and then $100,000 if he’s on the team Dec. 1.


“He really struggled last game so it was really nice to see him have a bounce back,” Heat summer league coach Eric Glass said. “He was talking on defense, helping anchor our defense.”


Nunn, incidentally, gets a $150,000 guarantee if he’s on the roster Aug. 1. Nunn scored 11 of his 19 in the fourth quarter Tuesday and added eight assists. He’s averaging 20.8 points this summer while shooting 46.8 percent from the field and 38.9 percent on threes.

As for Robinson, his 2019-20 guarantee will rise to $1 million if he’s on the roster after next Monday.

Robinson, who entered averaging 17.0 points in Vegas after scoring 13.5 in Sacramento summer league, scored 14 points on 5 for 12 shooting.

HERRO KEEPS IMPRESSING


Guard Tyler Herro was excellent Tuesday, scoring 19 first half points and finishing with 25 points (7 for 15 shooting) with seven rebounds and five assists. The Heat’s first-round pick was 9 for 10 on free throws and is 24 for 25 from the free-throw line in summer league.

“This is the only Tyler I know,” Glass said. “He’s been showing this since the first day he stepped on the court with us. He can give us whatever we need.... The thing that’s surprised me is his feel. He looks like he’s a second- or third-year guy out here. That’s the thing that jumps out.”


Seems pretty simple- just cut Maten
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Post#1754 » by Bishop45 » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:37 pm

MiamiSun wrote:I hope we don't have to do a "Tyler Herro Appreciation" Thread. Would he qualify if indeed he is traded?


Chalm already called dibs
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Post#1755 » by kobewade11 » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:37 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Read on Twitter

We dont know if ira actually said that or if this junkie is just making up chit. Either way Ira has never broken any story.
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Post#1756 » by twix2500 » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:40 pm

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Read on Twitter


I feel as if Ira would break the news via an article or report it on Twitter if he was confident enough in the source. Either way, I hope it happens!


Naw pimp, Ira knows a lot first hand. He has access to the heat. He doesnt leak anything or very little so he can keep his access. If anything Ira is the source to Barry Jackson
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Post#1757 » by Rapaz » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:40 pm

Read on Twitter
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Post#1758 » by Chalm Down » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:47 pm

Bishop45 wrote:
MiamiSun wrote:I hope we don't have to do a "Tyler Herro Appreciation" Thread. Would he qualify if indeed he is traded?


Chalm already called dibs


Man I hope this trade happens

I just love westbrook so much, ofc
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Post#1759 » by batterybro42 » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:47 pm

IRA deserves to be the one who brakes the story TBH, the guy never oversteps his bounds, he's a respectful reporter, the kind the Heat hold close, and value because he does not go spewing random rumors about the team.

If he is the guy who ultimately gets the story, I would be really happy for the dude

Seems like a good guy, who loves heat basketball
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Post#1760 » by zgope1 » Tue Jul 9, 2019 11:48 pm

As Zach Lowe rightly points out, even if we don’t have to give up an asset like Herro, Bam or Justise, which we absolutely shouldn’t, getting Russ give you a hard ceiling. It means you’re out of Giannis talks. Harden talks. Dame or CJ talks. Even if you’re not (say you could trade them in with the asset contracts), the base level fit of Jimmy and Russ is a disadvantage from the start. They both want the ball, and Russ is a negative without it.

At least with Jimmy we can establish a balance with ball handling for Justise, DHOs for Bam and Herro can cook and help without high volume.

Let’s explore what we have, we just paid off our debt, we just opened up our possibilities by getting star number 1. We can’t rush this next step by getting back into student debt

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