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Post#183 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:45 pm

Lets assume that the 18 players listed below are off the board.

1.Precious Achiuwa
2.Cole Anthony
3.Deni Avdija
4.Lamelo Ball
5.Saddiq Bey
6.Anthony Edwards
7.Josh Green
8.Tyrese Haliburton
9.RJ Hampton
10.Killian Hayes
11.Tyrese Maxey
12.Jaden McDaniels
13.Aaron Nesmith
14.Onyeka Okongwu
15.Isaac Okoro
16.James Wiseman
17.Obi Toppin
18.Devin Vassell

My top 5 picks for the Heat are...

1.Aleksej Pokusevski
2.Kira Lewis Jr.
3.Jalen Smith
4.Isaiah Joe
5.Tyler Bey
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Post#184 » by twix2500 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:28 pm

How do you feel about drafting a huge project and stashing him away for a few years. I see a very raw player and is trying to learn how to control his skills and that can happen in a few years in the g league or overseas.

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Post#185 » by HeatFanLifer » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:18 am

twix2500 wrote:How do you feel about drafting a huge project and stashing him away for a few years. I see a very raw player and is trying to learn how to control his skills and that can happen in a few years in the g league or overseas.



I don’t really like the idea of stashing a first round pick, but if it’s an undrafted or second round talent, you don’t have much to lose. When I think of first round stash, I think of Dorrel Wright and there was just so much time wasted on that guy. Don’t wanna go through that again.
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Post#186 » by DayofMourning » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:20 am

Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:Lets assume that the 18 players listed below are off the board.

1.Precious Achiuwa
2.Cole Anthony
3.Deni Avdija
4.Lamelo Ball
5.Saddiq Bey
6.Anthony Edwards
7.Josh Green
8.Tyrese Haliburton
9.RJ Hampton
10.Killian Hayes
11.Tyrese Maxey
12.Jaden McDaniels
13.Aaron Nesmith
14.Onyeka Okongwu
15.Isaac Okoro
16.James Wiseman
17.Obi Toppin
18.Devin Vassell

My top 5 picks for the Heat are...

1.Aleksej Pokusevski
2.Kira Lewis Jr.
3.Jalen Smith
4.Isaiah Joe
5.Tyler Bey


I'm down with 1 and 3. Both are very interesting players. I feel like Aleksej could turn into a real baller down the road. His ceiling feels pretty high.

I know zero about 2, 3 and 5. Not on my radar.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft - We have a FRP!....for now 

Post#187 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:25 pm

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Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:Lets assume that the 18 players listed below are off the board.

1.Precious Achiuwa
2.Cole Anthony
3.Deni Avdija
4.Lamelo Ball
5.Saddiq Bey
6.Anthony Edwards
7.Josh Green
8.Tyrese Haliburton
9.RJ Hampton
10.Killian Hayes
11.Tyrese Maxey
12.Jaden McDaniels
13.Aaron Nesmith
14.Onyeka Okongwu
15.Isaac Okoro
16.James Wiseman
17.Obi Toppin
18.Devin Vassell

My top 5 picks for the Heat are...

1.Aleksej Pokusevski
2.Kira Lewis Jr.
3.Jalen Smith
4.Isaiah Joe
5.Tyler Bey


I'm down with 1 and 3. Both are very interesting players. I feel like Aleksej could turn into a real baller down the road. His ceiling feels pretty high.

I know zero about 2, 3 and 5. Not on my radar.


Kira Lewis averaged 23 PPG his last 9 games, Isaiah Joe is Duncan Robinson in guard form and Tyler Bey is a combo forward that can defend.
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Post#188 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:58 pm

Switch Tyler Bey with Paul Reed. Reed is bigger and younger.
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Post#189 » by RipCity71252 » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:05 am

I still really like Nico for you guys.

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Post#190 » by twix2500 » Fri May 1, 2020 11:54 pm

I'm not confident any player at 24 will be able to crack into regular rotation next season. I think its purely a g-league player for the 1st year like Robinson and Okpala. I wouldn't be mad if we chose a stash away project.

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Post#191 » by puppa bear » Sat May 2, 2020 10:33 am

twix2500 wrote:I'm not confident any player at 24 will be able to crack into regular rotation next season. I think its purely a g-league player for the 1st year like Robinson and Okpala. I wouldn't be mad if we chose a stash away project.

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You’re probably right. The pick may give an indication as to what role they see KZ playing and who they are targeting in 2021 FA.


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Post#192 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Sat May 2, 2020 5:19 pm

twix2500 wrote:I'm not confident any player at 24 will be able to crack into regular rotation next season. I think its purely a g-league player for the 1st year like Robinson and Okpala. I wouldn't be mad if we chose a stash away project.

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If the player we draft starts his rookie year playing well, he will be in the rotation. We gave Robinson chances his rookie year and he was terrible. With Okpala, we were trying to develop his offensive game. If we draft a defense-first player odds are likely that he will be in the rotation.
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Post#193 » by twix2500 » Sun May 3, 2020 12:36 pm

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twix2500 wrote:I'm not confident any player at 24 will be able to crack into regular rotation next season. I think its purely a g-league player for the 1st year like Robinson and Okpala. I wouldn't be mad if we chose a stash away project.

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You’re probably right. The pick may give an indication as to what role they see KZ playing and who they are targeting in 2021 FA.


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Okpala is a wildcard. I think he was on pace in his learning curve to make the active roster and possibly compete to be in the rotation. He would have to beat out DJJ if he returns. He has similar attributes to DJJ but bigger more of a ball handler than dunker. If there is no summer league that could again stunt his development. That would be 2 summer leagues in a row. And was the gleague shorten this year because of COVID or was it finished?

If Gallinari opts out then I expect Heat to sign him. I expect Dragic and DJJ to return. I think up in the air will be Leonard and Crawford. I think Pat is relying on veterans to complete the main rotation, from here on out. Okpala possibly the only youngin with a chance at rotation. I cant see Vincent taking minutes from Dragic or Nunn. Herro, Robinson, Butler, and Iggy pretty much got the swing position on lock. Are we really expecting to find a big to outplay Olynyk, Leonard and possibly Gallinari?

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Post#194 » by Bishop45 » Mon May 4, 2020 2:28 am

Kira's pretty nice, strange I assumed he was already a dom-type player
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Post#196 » by DayofMourning » Sat May 9, 2020 12:14 pm

Bishop45 wrote:Kira's pretty nice, strange I assumed he was already a dom-type player


I've got blinders on this year. Pretty much only looking at bigs. I remember the last time I did that, and we drafted a front court instead of a backcourt like I was expecting. That was Bam. Turned out pretty good. I've got a high level of trust in the Heat drafting players. They just dont value the picks as much as other teams so we rarely have them in the Riley era.

Having said that, maybe Kira is a guy I will overlook and he will be great if we draft him. I knew well enough about Bam predraft, can't say the same about Kira.
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Post#197 » by Bishop45 » Sat May 9, 2020 1:08 pm

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Bishop45 wrote:Kira's pretty nice, strange I assumed he was already a dom-type player


I've got blinders on this year. Pretty much only looking at bigs. I remember the last time I did that, and we drafted a front court instead of a backcourt like I was expecting. That was Bam. Turned out pretty good. I've got a high level of trust in the Heat drafting players. They just dont value the picks as much as other teams so we rarely have them in the Riley era.

Having said that, maybe Kira is a guy I will overlook and he will be great if we draft him. I knew well enough about Bam predraft, can't say the same about Kira.


You know how I feel about bigs, for the most part. PG/SF would be my preference, but I'll takr what the land yield me

Who were the bigs you were favoring again?
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Post#198 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Sat May 9, 2020 7:17 pm

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Bishop45 wrote:Kira's pretty nice, strange I assumed he was already a dom-type player


I've got blinders on this year. Pretty much only looking at bigs. I remember the last time I did that, and we drafted a front court instead of a backcourt like I was expecting. That was Bam. Turned out pretty good. I've got a high level of trust in the Heat drafting players. They just dont value the picks as much as other teams so we rarely have them in the Riley era.

Having said that, maybe Kira is a guy I will overlook and he will be great if we draft him. I knew well enough about Bam predraft, can't say the same about Kira.


Bam had the upside of a top 5 pick, Kentucky just hid it very well. There isn't a big man we could draft right now that is equal in terms of upside to Kentucky Bam except maybe Pokusevski.
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Post#199 » by DayofMourning » Sun May 10, 2020 12:23 am

Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
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Bishop45 wrote:Kira's pretty nice, strange I assumed he was already a dom-type player


I've got blinders on this year. Pretty much only looking at bigs. I remember the last time I did that, and we drafted a front court instead of a backcourt like I was expecting. That was Bam. Turned out pretty good. I've got a high level of trust in the Heat drafting players. They just dont value the picks as much as other teams so we rarely have them in the Riley era.

Having said that, maybe Kira is a guy I will overlook and he will be great if we draft him. I knew well enough about Bam predraft, can't say the same about Kira.


Bam had the upside of a top 5 pick, Kentucky just hid it very well. There isn't a big man we could draft right now that is equal in terms of upside to Kentucky Bam except maybe Pokusevski.


I like Poku very much. I think this is the draft that a guy like that goes early though.
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Post#200 » by DayofMourning » Sun May 10, 2020 12:25 am

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Bishop45 wrote:Kira's pretty nice, strange I assumed he was already a dom-type player


I've got blinders on this year. Pretty much only looking at bigs. I remember the last time I did that, and we drafted a front court instead of a backcourt like I was expecting. That was Bam. Turned out pretty good. I've got a high level of trust in the Heat drafting players. They just dont value the picks as much as other teams so we rarely have them in the Riley era.

Having said that, maybe Kira is a guy I will overlook and he will be great if we draft him. I knew well enough about Bam predraft, can't say the same about Kira.


You know how I feel about bigs, for the most part. PG/SF would be my preference, but I'll takr what the land yield me

Who were the bigs you were favoring again?


Too many to list. This is a good year to be picking in the early 20s.

I'm super hyped about Jalen Smith and Alex Poku. Those dudes are intriguinng.
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