twix2500 wrote:RexBoyWonder wrote:twix2500 wrote:Jrue Holiday and Bogdan is a huge addition to the Bucks. However, the failures of the Bucks rely on Giannis. If he doesnt evolve his game where he can not be schemed out it doesnt matter who the Bucks trade for.
To say they gave up too much for Jrue, the Heat gave two first rounders for Dragic. Jrue is a better player than Dragic ever was. And Jrue will likely play his best ball this season now that he has motivation to ball out.
Bucks gave 3 first rounders + 2 pick swaps + decent players. Then Jrue is going to demand the max at age 32 and they will have to pay up.
If Giannis walks, It's probably one of the biggest overpays in NBA history.
They were desperate and acted like it.
Its about winning a chip, that is all that matters. The Bucks have a MVP player, you build around him as much as possible. This is their oppurtunity to win a chip. After Giannis they may be the Orlando Magic for the next 15 years. If Giannis signs the supermax, then who cares how old Jrue is. They can reload again and again and again until Giannis is done. Jrue and Middleton are legit two costars.
Dragic was younger than Jrue but it didnt matter because Bosh got sick. The Heat would had very little success without Butler on this team. Its a star driven league, you find the star then build around him as much as possible. Casual fans are not like me and you Rex. We will watch the gleague to see a player develop as entertainment. Youth doesnt win in this league. We keep falling for it every year around the league. The young bulls, the young lakers, the young thunder. The Thunder at least had that dude in Durant and didnt take advantage of the time they had him. Stars win in their prime. Giannis is about to hit his prime years. If they lock him up for the Supermax, a draft pick at 25 and up is not gonna be a game changer.
Unfortunately Bledsoe was nothing but a role player so was Hill. Role players come and go, do not be like 76ers and cripple the franchise over role players. Hell do not be like the Heat who crippled themselves with giving Whiteside star money when he was just a role player. Timberwolves were praised for getting role players in Covington and Sario for a star in his prime. All that did was put them in the lotto again. Don't you think the wolves rather have Butler over Sario, Covington, Wiggins youth and their lotto picks?
The Bucks for the next two years all they have to do is find the right role players and system that maximizes Giannis, Jrue and Middleton. Even it is a task, finding the right role players who complement the go too players is the easiest part of the process.
We basically agree, If I was the Bucks I would've done the same. They went ALL IN, as they should have. In a vacuum - they overpaid for Jure. But in reality, they had to to overpay.
See my post about Harden, I think in this NBA climate you go all in if you think you're a real contender. It is what it is.