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HeatFanDan wrote:Wow, some of y'all need to lay off Jimmy. Guy's playing huge minutes, he can't aggressively attack the basket on every possession. There is such a thing as fatigue.

AirP. wrote:

HeatingUp3 wrote:

AirP. wrote:It was a stupid shot, Bam and Butler were both out at the 3pt line, it was a perfect shot to have miss and lead to a fast break the other way. IT WAS A LAZY SHOT, Butler took a number of lazy shots tonight.

Butler cost Miami a title tonight. He's the "Max" player, the "leader" and he was deferring to K.Nunn in a finals game, way to lead.

Thats totelly was the momentum shift and the dagger. Lazy shot. Should have attacked the basket. The lane wa open. This is why we need a superstar. He is not enogh he is not consistent.

I actually thought he figured it out after Game 3, I was wrong. He had a 30 point half this last season, he's had a 40 point half earlier in his career and now in a game they needed to stay alive he was deferring to inferior players. He had 17 shots in a Finals game they needed which would be ok if he was deferring to players who were hitting but he wasn't.

That shot, missing that shot left Butler the furthest he could be on the court from being able to get back on defense. It would have been different if he had just hit 2 shots and was "hot", but he wasn't.

Still don't know why Nunn got so many minutes, put DJJ out there, you would have gotten better defense and maybe some more rebounds and possibly won the game.

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Chalm Down wrote:

radikalBaller wrote:

God please no chalm down thread, 2nd to iggie in term of bad luck...

wtf rad i loved you

we love you chalm, nothing personnal, was'nt it you the was OP for those disaster Hawks and magic games ?

Cmon_Son-_- wrote:I like Nunn but I just cant do it anymore. We gotta sell as high as we can this offseason. What could Nunn+ 20 give us?

AirP. wrote:This is the play I knew it was probably over, Nunn passed to Butler and then Butler passed it right back to Nunn, screened D.Green to have AD switch onto Nunn with the shot clock getting ready to expire. I don't consider that a smart nor winning play by Butler, that was him not being aggressive.

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carnageta wrote:But if he passed up that you would be flaming him right now for not shooting it.

He was wide open and in rhythm with his dribble. It was a good attempt.. Just didn’t go our way.


FYI - We defended the proceeding fast break well. You either give up an open lane to Lebron or you force him to kick it out to a shooter. We forced the latter and KCP made one hell of a shot. It happens. It’s basketball.

carnageta wrote:

AirP. wrote:This is the play I knew it was probably over, Nunn passed to Butler and then Butler passed it right back to Nunn, screened D.Green to have AD switch onto Nunn with the shot clock getting ready to expire. I don't consider that a smart nor winning play by Butler, that was him not being aggressive.

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Not the best offense.. that’s for sure.


But did you really think it was over? 9 minutes to go and only down 2 possessions. Have some faith my guy. All it takes is 1 shot to fall and everything can change.

Cmon_Son-_- wrote:I like Nunn but I just cant do it anymore. We gotta sell as high as we can this offseason. What could Nunn+ 20 give us?

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HeatFanDan wrote:Wow, some of y'all need to lay off Jimmy. Guy's playing huge minutes, he can't aggressively attack the basket on every possession. There is such a thing as fatigue.

Yup. And it's almost as if the Lakers decided they weren't gonna let him go for 40 again and instead pack the paint on him to force our shooters to beat them. You know, like everyone itt was expecting going into the game

AirP. wrote:

carnageta wrote:

AirP. wrote:This is the play I knew it was probably over, Nunn passed to Butler and then Butler passed it right back to Nunn, screened D.Green to have AD switch onto Nunn with the shot clock getting ready to expire. I don't consider that a smart nor winning play by Butler, that was him not being aggressive.

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Not the best offense.. that’s for sure.


But did you really think it was over? 9 minutes to go and only down 2 possessions. Have some faith my guy. All it takes is 1 shot to fall and everything can change.

Yes, I've followed Butler my his whole career, he was shying away from the moment and nobody else was really hitting, it would have been a sweep without an aggressive Butler in game 3, now he's only been aggressive offensively in 1 game and it's the only one Miami won. I had hoped he was coasting most of the game to be aggressive in the fourth, I was wrong.

I'm guessing he has too much faith in his teammates, but that doesn't follow his mantra, I'll do whatever it takes to win, because it took him being very aggressive for Miami to win. Bam coming back probably made him think to play more team vs him attacking.

HeatFanDan wrote:

AirP. wrote:

carnageta wrote:
Not the best offense.. that’s for sure.


But did you really think it was over? 9 minutes to go and only down 2 possessions. Have some faith my guy. All it takes is 1 shot to fall and everything can change.

Yes, I've followed Butler my his whole career, he was shying away from the moment and nobody else was really hitting, it would have been a sweep without an aggressive Butler in game 3, now he's only been aggressive offensively in 1 game and it's the only one Miami won. I had hoped he was coasting most of the game to be aggressive in the fourth, I was wrong.

I'm guessing he has too much faith in his teammates, but that doesn't follow his mantra, I'll do whatever it takes to win, because it took him being very aggressive for Miami to win. Bam coming back probably made him think to play more team vs him attacking.

Beat a dead horse much?

AirP. wrote:

HeatFanDan wrote:

AirP. wrote:Yes, I've followed Butler my his whole career, he was shying away from the moment and nobody else was really hitting, it would have been a sweep without an aggressive Butler in game 3, now he's only been aggressive offensively in 1 game and it's the only one Miami won. I had hoped he was coasting most of the game to be aggressive in the fourth, I was wrong.

I'm guessing he has too much faith in his teammates, but that doesn't follow his mantra, I'll do whatever it takes to win, because it took him being very aggressive for Miami to win. Bam coming back probably made him think to play more team vs him attacking.

Beat a dead horse much?

Only when it's costing a team the championship.

HeatFanDan wrote:

AirP. wrote:

HeatFanDan wrote:Beat a dead horse much?

Only when it's costing a team the championship.

Bruh, you're talking about a single play out of a 48 minute basketball game. You don't win or lose a game on a single possession unless it's a game-ending buzzer beater. Let it go. Move on.

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carnageta wrote:But if he passed up that you would be flaming him right now for not shooting it.

He was wide open and in rhythm with his dribble. It was a good attempt.. Just didn’t go our way.


FYI - We defended the proceeding fast break well. You either give up an open lane to Lebron or you force him to kick it out to a shooter. We forced the latter and KCP made one hell of a shot. It happens. It’s basketball.

It was a bad shot, he wasn't in a shooting groove at that point, it was out of nowhere. Had he hit one or 2 shots before that and thought he was "hot" sure, go for it, it's a bad shot but at least it would be a heat check but that wasn't the case.