Mon, 2/15 Heat @ Clippers 10pm (New OP in town)

[AirP.]

Mia's a bad team that's poorly coached.

No hyperbole.

Maybe they'll course correct and the hope-trafficers will be proven right.

Maybe they'll execute a masterstroke deal.

As of now, the team sucks.

We have some very good pieces, but our role players (nunn, kelly, robinson, harkless, precious) are a bad fit to our core players (jimmy, bam, herro).

Nunn's not a bad fit, he's just not ideal. Team needs a ball-handling playmaker upgrade.

Neither is Kelly who is not good enough to be starting. He's perfectly acceptable as a bench player though.

Mia has some top end talent, no doubt.

Again, coaching has been woeful and, to your point, supplemental pieces leave much to be desired.

Miami has Butler and Bam to handle the playmaking with the starters, they need guys who can put the ball in the basket, not give one of the 3 possible outside shooters to create for the rest.

If Nunn were a better defensive player there would be no issues with him being the starting PG especially with Bam and Butler out there being playmakers, but Nunn's not a good defender, neither is Tyler or Dragic. Going from 2 to 3 bad defenders in the starting lineup has been huge. Also, Miami is so desperate for outside shooting they have Olynyk shooting any 3 he can out there, even if he's not set for the shot, so to put in a PG who is looking to pass instead of score is just detrimental to the starters unless he can do both when appropriate. Basically Miami wants combo guards that lean towards being more of a SG.

Get a solid defensive 4 who has the ability to shoot 3s, even if it's below league average and get a 2 way PG(Bradley may end up being good enough) and this team can get back to competing each night. The loss of a solid defensive 4 was HUGE. Instead of just 2 of the staring 5 being bad defensive, there's now 3 out 5 that are bad defensive, that's a huge difference.

[Beenie]

We have some very good pieces, but our role players (nunn, kelly, robinson, harkless, precious) are a bad fit to our core players (jimmy, bam, herro).

Nunn's not a bad fit, he's just not ideal. Team needs a ball-handling playmaker upgrade.

Neither is Kelly who is not good enough to be starting. He's perfectly acceptable as a bench player though.

Mia has some top end talent, no doubt.

Again, coaching has been woeful and, to your point, supplemental pieces leave much to be desired.

Miami has Butler and Bam to handle the playmaking with the starters, they need guys who can put the ball in the basket, not give one of the 3 possible outside shooters to create for the rest.

If Nunn were a better defensive player there would be no issues with him being the starting PG especially with Bam and Butler out there being playmakers, but Nunn's not a good defender, neither is Tyler or Dragic. Going from 2 to 3 bad defenders in the starting lineup has been huge. Also, Miami is so desperate for outside shooting they have Olynyk shooting any 3 he can out there, even if he's not set for the shot, so to put in a PG who is looking to pass instead of score is just detrimental to the starters unless he can do both when appropriate. Basically Miami wants combo guards that lean towards being more of a SG.

Get a solid defensive 4 who has the ability to shoot 3s, even if it's below league average and get a 2 way PG(Bradley may end up being good enough) and this team can get back to competing each night. The loss of a solid defensive 4 was HUGE. Instead of just 2 of the staring 5 being bad defensive, there's now 3 out 5 that are bad defensive, that's a huge difference.

Bam and Butler ought to be doing most of the scoring (as they do) and less of the facilitating, Bam in particular.

Pick and roll/pop ought to be even more utilized with Bam as the screener. Jimmy as the handler is fine but the team would greatly benefit from having a skilled PnR PG running the show.

If Nunn were a better passer, he'd be fine if he were casted in that role because of his ability to shoot from the mid range and from distance. The fact that's he's not a great passer and, as you've mentioned, not a good defender is inhibiting.

The 4 position is a mess and finding the right guy has proven to be more difficult than a simple plug and play which was seemingly the point of view of the front office who underestimated the the importance of the position.

[HeatFanLifer]

Could've happened to anyone OP, it's DemonOP haunting us

This was a MUST win. You can't get blown out like we did last game and then lose to these scrubs. We gonna survive off barely beating the Knicks and Rockets?

What happened to us?

You fought well OP. This team is flawed.

[AirP.]

Bam and Butler ought to be doing most of the scoring (as they do) and less of the facilitating, Bam in particular.

Yes and no, Bam is getting good points just in the flow of the game without disrupting the team, Butler can go into scoring mode as we've seen. I actually think Herro can take a bigger part in scoring. Of the 3 of them, Herro's scoring is way less taxing since he can hit jumpers and 3s much better then the others.

Pick and roll/pop ought to be even more utilized with Bam as the screener. Jimmy as the handler is fine but the team would greatly benefit from having a skilled PnR PG running the show.

Doesn't have to be a PG, could be another SG or even a combo guard. With Butler and Bam able to run the offense, Miami needs to take advantage of that and get a more scoring PG. Herro, while a good scorer, not great handling the ball under distress at this time in his career.

If Nunn were a better passer, he'd be fine if he were casted in that role because of his ability to shoot from the mid range and from distance. The fact that's he's not a great passer and, as you've mentioned, not a good defender is inhibiting.

The 4 position is a mess and finding the right guy has proven to be more difficult than a simple plug and play which was seemingly the point of view of the front office who underestimated the the importance of the position.

Nunn to me is a good scoring 6th man that has been pushed to a starters role because of lack of depth. Without a trade I feel that Bradley will end up being the starting PG, he plays good defense so that's his big plus, although not a good shooter he's ok but he's not looking for his shot, he'll have to play off Bam and Butler.

The 4... the reason it's such a problem is because Robinson is the 3 and there's no defense at PG. Teams are getting Bam to switch out to the parameter leaving NO ONE to guard the basket so when Nunn, Herro or Robinson lets their man go right past them it's an easy layup. I really need to go back and watch how teams are scoring against Miami to have a better idea what's happening other then what I remember seeing. I guess it's quite possible M.Morris was close and LA just gave him more years to beat it, other then that, it doesn't really make much sense that they really didn't address that spot. It is interesting that Butler follows him on Twitter.

Just looking at DRTG...
Butler, Precious, Iggy, Bam and Olynyk are all 109 or lower. Iggy is just bad for the offense.

The rest...
Herro 113
Harkless, KZ, Dragic 114
Robinson 115
Strus 117 in a small sample size, his ORTG is 128 which is way too high because of that same small sample size.

[abark]

Could've happened to anyone OP, it's DemonOP haunting us

This was a MUST win. You can't get blown out like we did last game and then lose to these scrubs. We gonna survive off barely beating the Knicks and Rockets?

What happened to us?

You fought well OP. This team is flawed.

Thats an understatement. Some good players, but awful overall roster construction. Things just don't fit. Same problems every game.

[3ballbomber]

So is expecting smalls to guard 7 foot Zubac. That's where we lost the game, that stretch where they repeatedly went to Zubac and blew the lead to double digits.

We had everybody from Herro to Jimmy to Igoudala, scored on all easily

that's one of our main 2 issues...we lack 5 man that can guard opposing C's, take down boards & bang in the paint. We have outside shooters but puts alot of pressure on them every game because we have no inside presence. Wld've def helped vs Davis in finals, where he was able to feast on our small line up.

We then chuck up more 3s than we like & clank a lot of them. It's horrible to watch todays NBA 3pt chuck fest. I'm old school - the inside, outside game is still very much important & alive to me.

On top of that no one's scared of Miami, we don't intimidate teams. We don't have bruisers or have players w/ that sort of mentality (apart from Jimmy, who'd fight an entire team). We're nice guys - Bam is one of the culprits of this. He'd rather laugh, joke around & shakes hands w/ all his friends, than try to beat them down.

[HIF]

Mia's a bad team that's poorly coached.

No hyperbole.

Maybe they'll course correct and the hope-trafficers will be proven right.

Maybe they'll execute a masterstroke deal.

As of now, the team sucks.

That's just too easy to say.

This coach took those same players to the championship game last year.

[Beenie]

Mia's a bad team that's poorly coached.

No hyperbole.

Maybe they'll course correct and the hope-trafficers will be proven right.

Maybe they'll execute a masterstroke deal.

As of now, the team sucks.

That's just too easy to say.

This coach took those same players to the championship game last year.

That doesn't mean Spo is coaching at the same level he was last year does it?

Stubbornly, the team hasn't made the new adjustments that the league has made to his coaching.

The zone defense hasn't been as effective as it was. Opposing teams have regularly been able to identify its openings.

On offense, the dribble hand-off play gets regularly blown up.

The team is last in rebounding and 2nd to last in turnovers.

Mia is in the top 10 in 3 point attempts yet they are 7th worst in 3 point %.

It's too easy to say coaching has been bad because it's indeed that obvious.

[Bourne85]

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[HIF]

Mia's a bad team that's poorly coached.

No hyperbole.

Maybe they'll course correct and the hope-trafficers will be proven right.

Maybe they'll execute a masterstroke deal.

As of now, the team sucks.

That's just too easy to say.

This coach took those same players to the championship game last year.

That doesn't mean Spo is coaching at the same level he was last year does it?

Stubbornly, the team hasn't made the new adjustments that the league has made to his coaching.

The zone defense hasn't been as effective as it was. Opposing teams have regularly been able to identify its openings.

On offense, the dribble hand-off play gets regularly blown up.

The team is last in rebounding and 2nd to last in turnovers.

Mia is in the top 10 in 3 point attempts yet they are 7th worst in 3 point %.

It's too easy to say coaching has been bad because it's indeed that obvious.

The Team just isn't very good. It wasn't last year or the year before or the year before. Spo is the one keeping them relevant by re-inventing.

[Beenie]

That's just too easy to say.

This coach took those same players to the championship game last year.

That doesn't mean Spo is coaching at the same level he was last year does it?

Stubbornly, the team hasn't made the new adjustments that the league has made to his coaching.

The zone defense hasn't been as effective as it was. Opposing teams have regularly been able to identify its openings.

On offense, the dribble hand-off play gets regularly blown up.

The team is last in rebounding and 2nd to last in turnovers.

Mia is in the top 10 in 3 point attempts yet they are 7th worst in 3 point %.

It's too easy to say coaching has been bad because it's indeed that obvious.

The Team just isn't very good. It wasn't last year or the year before or the year before. Spo is the one keeping them relevant by re-inventing.

He hasn't reinvented them 'this year'.

I'm not critiquing Spo's entire body of work so there's no need to defend his career accolades, at least not to me in this instance.

The team has been bad this year partly because of poor coaching.

I think any honest appraisal of the team this year thus far would have to admit that.