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Miami Heat Regular Season/Speculation Thread 2021 Part 3

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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season/Speculation Thread 2021 Part 3 

Post#881 » by Kobewade11 » Thu May 13, 2021 11:45 pm

twix2500 wrote:Priority number 1, sign Lowry, Nunn and Robinson. Dedmon, Dragic, Ariza and Iggy can resign for the little that is left over if they want to return.

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Knedrick is 25 and again starting at PG while the team is coming into form. He could potentially command a larger deal that we would have to match, you going to sign Lowry just to bring Nunn off the bench?
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season/Speculation Thread 2021 Part 3 

Post#882 » by twix2500 » Fri May 14, 2021 1:19 am

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twix2500 wrote:Priority number 1, sign Lowry, Nunn and Robinson. Dedmon, Dragic, Ariza and Iggy can resign for the little that is left over if they want to return.

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Knedrick is 25 and again starting at PG while the team is coming into form. He could potentially command a larger deal that we would have to match, you going to sign Lowry just to bring Nunn off the bench?


Yes. Especially we have to be mindful of Lowry age.

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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season/Speculation Thread 2021 Part 3 

Post#883 » by twix2500 » Fri May 14, 2021 1:31 pm

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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season/Speculation Thread 2021 Part 3 

Post#884 » by twix2500 » Fri May 14, 2021 1:33 pm

What is the maximum cap room will the Heat have if they do not cut Dragic?

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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season/Speculation Thread 2021 Part 3 

Post#885 » by DayofMourning » Fri May 14, 2021 1:36 pm

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He was Gabe Vincent level for a looong time. Now he's a integral part of our roster. Glad to see him doing well, and silencing all his doubters, myself included.
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Post#886 » by Seabass777 » Fri May 14, 2021 2:55 pm

It could be a win win situation for us with the Lakers, if they lose they're in the play-in tournament and they might have to play the Warriors, if they win and Blazers lose, then they jump to 6th and would play the Clippers in the 1st round.

If the Lakers upset the Clippers in the 1st round, then Kawhi might be gone, increasing our chances of signing him this summer.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season/Speculation Thread 2021 Part 3 

Post#887 » by AirP. » Fri May 14, 2021 4:14 pm

twix2500 wrote:What is the maximum cap room will the Heat have if they do not cut Dragic?

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I'm not 100% sure but if Miami declines his team option his cap hold is 150% of his last year's contract, so if he's making 18 million this year his cap hold will be 24 million.

Miami has some options but if they want enough cap room to sign a single significant player, Miami may lose a lot of depth and maybe a current starter or 2(but should replace at least 1 of them with the FA). It's not as clean and simple as letting someone like Oladipo walk and replacing him with someone anywhere near his potential.

This is why I say it may be better to bring nearly everyone back and then do a sign and trade with Toronto for Lowry by trading Dragic's contract and a young player(Precious or KZ) and possibly a 2nd round pick.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season/Speculation Thread 2021 Part 3 

Post#888 » by RexBoyWonder » Fri May 14, 2021 4:22 pm

Seabass777 wrote:It could be a win win situation for us with the Lakers, if they lose they're in the play-in tournament and they might have to play the Warriors, if they win and Blazers lose, then they jump to 6th and would play the Clippers in the 1st round.

If the Lakers upset the Clippers in the 1st round, then Kawhi might be gone, increasing our chances of signing him this summer.



It's extremally frustrating knowing we could have a ton of open cap space this offseason and no one worthwhile to spend it on.

I think it's very unlikely Kawhi leaves the city of Los Angels and besides him, I don't see anyone really worthwhile.

It's driving me crazy, is this the weakest free agency of all time?!?!

We have all this money to spend but no stars are out there.......

We have a great base to built on and it feels there's no way to add that high caliber player to take us to the next level. Maybe Pat sees something I'm missing...but it doesn't look promising at all..
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season/Speculation Thread 2021 Part 3 

Post#889 » by RexBoyWonder » Fri May 14, 2021 4:25 pm

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twix2500 wrote:What is the maximum cap room will the Heat have if they do not cut Dragic?

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I'm not 100% sure but if Miami declines his team option his cap hold is 150% of his last year's contract, so if he's making 18 million this year his cap hold will be 24 million.

Miami has some options but if they want enough cap room to sign a single significant player, Miami may lose a lot of depth and maybe a current starter or 2(but should replace at least 1 of them with the FA). It's not as clean and simple as letting someone like Oladipo walk and replacing him with someone anywhere near his potential.

This is why I say it may be better to bring nearly everyone back and then do a sign and trade with Toronto for Lowry by trading Dragic's contract and a young player(Precious or KZ) and possibly a 2nd round pick.



Let's imagine we add 36 YO Lowry to this exact team.

Is he the guy to take us to the top? I'm very pessimistic about that notion.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season/Speculation Thread 2021 Part 3 

Post#890 » by AirP. » Fri May 14, 2021 4:51 pm

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twix2500 wrote:What is the maximum cap room will the Heat have if they do not cut Dragic?

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I'm not 100% sure but if Miami declines his team option his cap hold is 150% of his last year's contract, so if he's making 18 million this year his cap hold will be 24 million.

Miami has some options but if they want enough cap room to sign a single significant player, Miami may lose a lot of depth and maybe a current starter or 2(but should replace at least 1 of them with the FA). It's not as clean and simple as letting someone like Oladipo walk and replacing him with someone anywhere near his potential.

This is why I say it may be better to bring nearly everyone back and then do a sign and trade with Toronto for Lowry by trading Dragic's contract and a young player(Precious or KZ) and possibly a 2nd round pick.



Let's imagine we add 36 YO Lowry to this exact team.

Is he the guy to take us to the top? I'm very pessimistic about that notion.


Lowry just turned 35, is 2 months older then Dragic and overall a much better player especially when considering both sides of the ball.

Is it overpaying, yes, but if you can have a playoff rotation next year of Lowry, Oladipo, Robinson, Butler and Bam with Herro, Ariza, Dedmon coming off the bench, yes, I think that's a title contender, that's a team with very little issues defensively, a lot of BB IQ and solid shooting to go with them.

If Miami doesn't do that, the roster will probably be worse overall next year, much like it was a majority of this season until Ariza finally was brought in to take over the PF position.

All you can do is give your team the best tools it can have to try to win a Championship unless you have multiple Tier 1 players, LA added Leonard and George and didn't even make their conference finals last year.

BTW... next month Ariza turns 36 and he's probably got 2 more solid seasons in him.
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Post#891 » by greg4012 » Fri May 14, 2021 6:09 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
AirP. wrote:
twix2500 wrote:What is the maximum cap room will the Heat have if they do not cut Dragic?

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I'm not 100% sure but if Miami declines his team option his cap hold is 150% of his last year's contract, so if he's making 18 million this year his cap hold will be 24 million.

Miami has some options but if they want enough cap room to sign a single significant player, Miami may lose a lot of depth and maybe a current starter or 2(but should replace at least 1 of them with the FA). It's not as clean and simple as letting someone like Oladipo walk and replacing him with someone anywhere near his potential.

This is why I say it may be better to bring nearly everyone back and then do a sign and trade with Toronto for Lowry by trading Dragic's contract and a young player(Precious or KZ) and possibly a 2nd round pick.



Let's imagine we add 36 YO Lowry to this exact team.

Is he the guy to take us to the top? I'm very pessimistic about that notion.


If Lowry can remain the same player he is now for another season or 2, I think it's marginal difference in regular season and notable difference in the playoffs. He's similar to Jimmy in the playoff game. He just has learned over the years how to control the flow of it and capitalize on moments to execute.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season/Speculation Thread 2021 Part 3 

Post#892 » by heatwillbeback » Fri May 14, 2021 7:36 pm

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I was fully expecting Strus to get a multi year deal. Going to somebody outside of the organization surprises me somewhat. Don’t know much about this guy but trust the Heat re. developmental players.
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Post#893 » by HeatIn5 » Fri May 14, 2021 8:04 pm

Damn... wanted Omer Yurteight
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Post#894 » by insfo » Fri May 14, 2021 8:43 pm

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I was fully expecting Strus to get a multi year deal. Going to somebody outside of the organization surprises me somewhat. Don’t know much about this guy but trust the Heat re. developmental players.


This looks to be a 10-day contract, so may not have any bearing on a potential Strus deal.
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Post#896 » by Mk613 » Fri May 14, 2021 9:46 pm

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Post#897 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri May 14, 2021 10:19 pm

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I was fully expecting Strus to get a multi year deal. Going to somebody outside of the organization surprises me somewhat. Don’t know much about this guy but trust the Heat re. developmental players.

He’s a stretch big. I like it. Played for Zo’s hoyas.

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Post#898 » by twix2500 » Fri May 14, 2021 10:33 pm

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I was fully expecting Strus to get a multi year deal. Going to somebody outside of the organization surprises me somewhat. Don’t know much about this guy but trust the Heat re. developmental players.
Isn't he the fake Kelly Olynyk?

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Post#899 » by Clav » Fri May 14, 2021 10:37 pm

Yurtseven (lol at the Yurteight joke) was pretty good for the OKC Blue, but he's a little slow-footed. Still, rebs, shoots decent. Good luck big guy do the Heat proud.
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Post#900 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri May 14, 2021 10:48 pm

Clav wrote:Yurtseven (lol at the Yurteight joke) was pretty good for the OKC Blue, but he's a little slow-footed. Still, rebs, shoots decent. Good luck big guy do the Heat proud.

Riley and the team do really well with these EOY signings. We are in desperate need of size. Will be nice developmental big to have behind Dedmon next year. He’s essentially like getting a draft pick which we don’t have next year.

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