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HeatFanLifer wrote:The next GT is just there for the taking. So easy.

Shewasfly wrote:

balla345 wrote:And for anyone saying butler wouldn’t make a difference is lying. The way to suns play defense butler would be the only ones the refs would call anything for. The game would’ve slowed down and if he was on his game it would free up herro/Lowry/gabe a lot more. He’s also a great defender last time I check and still putting close to mvp numbers.

The suggestion doesn't even make sense. He's 22 points and great defense gone in all one fell swoop. He's basically all of our free throws and ability to score in the half court too.

Its not to say we wouldn't have still lost but to say he wouldn't make a difference is crazy.

Like Jimmy wouldn't have made a difference but Yogurt would have saved us? Huh??

balla345 wrote:And for anyone saying butler wouldn’t make a difference is lying. The way to suns play defense butler would be the only ones the refs would call anything for. The game would’ve slowed down and if he was on his game it would free up herro/Lowry/gabe a lot more. He’s also a great defender last time I check and still putting close to mvp numbers.

MorbidHEAT wrote:As much as I love the Heat, I hate them sometimes. How are you going to get embarrassed on a national game?

Seems like after that first quarter there was almost no effort.

Today is one of the games that Yurt probably could have played seeing as we got absolutely torched on the glass.

I really need to see Dipo more aggressive. Its understandable that he is out of rhythm. However, as he gets more into rhythm, he needs to look at the basket more and not pass off a direct lane to the basket as he did several time this game.

I am also believing more and more that this team will not be a truly great team as long as Bam is our first or 2nd option offensively. It's just not who he is. He really has to be the third option getting his point off of hustle plays and rebounds. He doesn't have it in him to be super aggressive like he has been for that 3 or 4 game stretch after the all star break.

contract wrote:This team is just **** weird sometimes.

somerandomdude wrote:

balla345 wrote:And for anyone saying butler wouldn’t make a difference is lying. The way to suns play defense butler would be the only ones the refs would call anything for. The game would’ve slowed down and if he was on his game it would free up herro/Lowry/gabe a lot more. He’s also a great defender last time I check and still putting close to mvp numbers.

Theoretically, yes. But what happens if the refs don't make calls? We had plenty of drives tonight and made plenty of contact with only 13 FTAs to show for it. Suns only had 10 FTAs, as well, but they were getting them when they needed them.

So if refs aren't making calls, then Jimmy could turn into a liability if he's not hitting shots.

contract wrote:This team is just **** weird sometimes.

KingDavid wrote:

somerandomdude wrote:

balla345 wrote:And for anyone saying butler wouldn’t make a difference is lying. The way to suns play defense butler would be the only ones the refs would call anything for. The game would’ve slowed down and if he was on his game it would free up herro/Lowry/gabe a lot more. He’s also a great defender last time I check and still putting close to mvp numbers.

Theoretically, yes. But what happens if the refs don't make calls? We had plenty of drives tonight and made plenty of contact with only 13 FTAs to show for it. Suns only had 10 FTAs, as well, but they were getting them when they needed them.

So if refs aren't making calls, then Jimmy could turn into a liability if he's not hitting shots.

He absolutely would have drawn more contact and fouls. But he would be helpless against the bigs pounding the glass and scoring on him and other guards. Ayton was in practice tonight. Like he wasn't being defended.

Shewasfly wrote:

KingDavid wrote:

Shewasfly wrote:What I find funny is that I don't think they even mentioned Jimmy's name once. Not saying this team deserves any excuses, but you'd think not having our best player wasn't worth mentioning while they mentioned Paul and even Cameron something that the Suns are missing.

True. But tbh, having Jimmy wouldn't have changed a damn thing. Them having cp3 would have been horrific. He would have been having a party feed those switches.

Sure it would have. You don't think someone who can actually put pressure on the inside wouldn't have made them change their defense and loosen things up for us a bit? Someone who the refs may actually call a foul for consistently?

I think he would have been tremendous, especially when we started struggling in the half court.

somerandomdude wrote:

KingDavid wrote:

somerandomdude wrote:Theoretically, yes. But what happens if the refs don't make calls? We had plenty of drives tonight and made plenty of contact with only 13 FTAs to show for it. Suns only had 10 FTAs, as well, but they were getting them when they needed them.

So if refs aren't making calls, then Jimmy could turn into a liability if he's not hitting shots.

He absolutely would have drawn more contact and fouls. But he would be helpless against the bigs pounding the glass and scoring on him and other guards. Ayton was in practice tonight. Like he wasn't being defended.

But how do you know he would've gotten the calls? I don't think you (or anyone) does. This was a low FTA game for both teams. He didn't even get FTAs against the Bucks, who shot 27 FTAs to our 12.

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gom wrote:Disappointing. Whatever. We did look tired though. I'm glad we're on a homestand.

DayofMourning wrote:Think Riley might have to come down to coach the team again. Would hate to waste this roster with a coach who refuses to adapt/gameplan against teams with bigs.

somerandomdude wrote:

DayofMourning wrote:

somerandomdude wrote:
The final tally was 64-46.

I remember posting that, with Yurtz, we were the best rebounding team in the league by about 4rpg.

He's automatic on the boards. When someone says a rookie just set the record for consecutive double doubles over the past 40 years, you have to stop and pay attention. You're talking about a kid doing chit that legends couldn't duplicate. He's a board beast. He's getting you ten at least.

Amen, brother.

He's in a tough situation. If you're a traditional Center, Spo is the worst coach to play for. He wants a guy who can defend the perimeter, switch, and close out on 3pt shooters, and that definitely has its advantages, but he also can't (or refuses to) adjust to what he has and would throw away talent as a result. He's either going to win his way or not win at all.

HeatFanLifer wrote:

contract wrote:This team is just **** weird sometimes.

That’s why legitimate banners are so far and few between.

KingDavid wrote:

gom wrote:Disappointing. Whatever. We did look tired though. I'm glad we're on a homestand.

Suns were on a b2b. Why the hell are we tired?

fishfuego. wrote:

somerandomdude wrote:Amen, brother.

He's in a tough situation. If you're a traditional Center, Spo is the worst coach to play for. He wants a guy who can defend the perimeter, switch, and close out on 3pt shooters, and that definitely has its advantages, but he also can't (or refuses to) adjust to what he has and would throw away talent as a result. He's either going to win his way or not win at all.

We’ll the odds are against him, because in the playoffs easier higher percentage putbacks will only put the pressure on the opposite shooters who aren’t scoring inside vs taller players.