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Heat vs Celtics - 30 November - 7:30PM

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:52 am
by Wiltside
Time for OP to get his long prophecied Eric Bana.

What better team than the Saltdicks.

Not gonna be EZ. Pray for me.

Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:56 am
by DayofMourning
2 E Z

Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:07 am
by 3ammy3uck3ts
Split these and it’s solid, get the first for the banner

Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:13 am
by IceColdCubano
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Split these and it’s solid, get the first for the banner

Getting the first one is probably the most crucial, seeing as Boston might rest some key guys on the back to back. Which will give us a better shot at taking both. If Bam is who he thinks he is he will score 30+ on Celtics defense, if not then everything until now has been a fluke of playing crappy teams and taking advantage. The table is set for him to show us if he has finally taking the leap, that's right I still don't think its sustainable from him against elite teams, but I am ready to eat the crow when it presents itself. This is the team we need to beat in the playoffs to get to the end of the line. I also assume jimmy will be returning, which means I expect him to be rustier than a nail at a dock post.

Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:16 am
by 3ammy3uck3ts
IceColdCubano wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Split these and it’s solid, get the first for the banner

Getting the first one is probably the most crucial, seeing as Boston might rest some key guys on the back to back. Which will give us a better shot at taking both. If Bam is who he thinks he is he will score 30+ on Celtics defense, if not then everything until now has been a fluke of playing crappy teams and taking advantage. The table is set for him to show us if he has finally taking the leap, that's right I still don't think its sustainable from him against elite teams, but I am ready to eat the crow when it presents itself. This is the team we need to beat in the playoffs to get to the end of the line. I also assume jimmy will be returning, which means I expect him to be rustier than a nail at a dock post.


You need to look no further than the monster games last playoffs and his last big game against them this season. 30+ vs Ayton KP Collins and onyeka is no easy task.

Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:32 am
by 3ballbomber
gone need Edrice to walk into the game like this

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Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:04 am
by Bishop45

Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:55 am
by contract
IceColdCubano wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Split these and it’s solid, get the first for the banner

Getting the first one is probably the most crucial, seeing as Boston might rest some key guys on the back to back. Which will give us a better shot at taking both. If Bam is who he thinks he is he will score 30+ on Celtics defense, if not then everything until now has been a fluke of playing crappy teams and taking advantage. The table is set for him to show us if he has finally taking the leap, that's right I still don't think its sustainable from him against elite teams, but I am ready to eat the crow when it presents itself. This is the team we need to beat in the playoffs to get to the end of the line. I also assume jimmy will be returning, which means I expect him to be rustier than a nail at a dock post.

These aren't really back to back. There's a day of rest between games.

Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:47 pm
by RexBoyWonder
This OP...he might be on to something

Last game was the best win of the season, can he do it again?

Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:06 pm
by KingDavid
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Split these and it’s solid, get the first for the banner

Getting the first one is probably the most crucial, seeing as Boston might rest some key guys on the back to back. Which will give us a better shot at taking both. If Bam is who he thinks he is he will score 30+ on Celtics defense, if not then everything until now has been a fluke of playing crappy teams and taking advantage. The table is set for him to show us if he has finally taking the leap, that's right I still don't think its sustainable from him against elite teams, but I am ready to eat the crow when it presents itself. This is the team we need to beat in the playoffs to get to the end of the line. I also assume jimmy will be returning, which means I expect him to be rustier than a nail at a dock post.


You need to look no further than the monster games last playoffs and his last big game against them this season. 30+ vs Ayton KP Collins and onyeka is no easy task.

The games he went off, was Robert Williams playing? I remember him being in and out because of injury. Because I don't expect much from Bam in these games because of him. He's a fantastic defender. Not sure Bam's current offensive level can over come that and score another 30. I don't suspect he'll be force fed to score as much because it. He always contributes to winning so maybe more passes than shots again Boston? I'd love to be wrong though.

The players you mentioned are bad defenders. Well, 3 of them. Idk who Onyeka is.

Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:09 pm
by 3ammy3uck3ts
KingDavid wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:Getting the first one is probably the most crucial, seeing as Boston might rest some key guys on the back to back. Which will give us a better shot at taking both. If Bam is who he thinks he is he will score 30+ on Celtics defense, if not then everything until now has been a fluke of playing crappy teams and taking advantage. The table is set for him to show us if he has finally taking the leap, that's right I still don't think its sustainable from him against elite teams, but I am ready to eat the crow when it presents itself. This is the team we need to beat in the playoffs to get to the end of the line. I also assume jimmy will be returning, which means I expect him to be rustier than a nail at a dock post.


You need to look no further than the monster games last playoffs and his last big game against them this season. 30+ vs Ayton KP Collins and onyeka is no easy task.

The games he went off, was Robert Williams playing? I remember him being in and out because of injury. Because I don't expect much from Bam in these games because of him. He's a fantastic defender.


25-11-4 against Rob in game 7.

Rob is a very good defender and people forget how great of a defender Horford has always been as well. This is a guy who’s made Embiid irrelevant in the playoffs multiple times.

Celtics and the Bucks in my opinion have the toughest matchups for Bam but he’s shown to be able to dominate both at times. We’ll see

Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:10 pm
by KingDavid
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
KingDavid wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
You need to look no further than the monster games last playoffs and his last big game against them this season. 30+ vs Ayton KP Collins and onyeka is no easy task.

The games he went off, was Robert Williams playing? I remember him being in and out because of injury. Because I don't expect much from Bam in these games because of him. He's a fantastic defender.


25-11-4 against Rob in game 7.

Rob is a very good defender and people forget how great of a defender Horford has always been as well. This is a guy who’s made Embiid irrelevant in the playoffs multiple times.

Celtics and the Bucks in my opinion have the toughest matchups for Bam but he’s shown to be able to dominate both at times. We’ll see

Damn. Yeah we'll see. Boston is cooking rn...but so is Bam.

Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:19 pm
by 3ammy3uck3ts
First game against the Celtics this season Bam had 19 on 8-11 shooting and was +20 for the game (we lost the 13 minutes he didn’t play by 27 :o )

He had 12 with 8 minutes left in the 2nd quarter, why we went away from him after that is still a mystery to me. It seems we’ve gotten away from that though

Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:43 pm
by IceColdCubano
KingDavid wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
KingDavid wrote:The games he went off, was Robert Williams playing? I remember him being in and out because of injury. Because I don't expect much from Bam in these games because of him. He's a fantastic defender.


25-11-4 against Rob in game 7.

Rob is a very good defender and people forget how great of a defender Horford has always been as well. This is a guy who’s made Embiid irrelevant in the playoffs multiple times.

Celtics and the Bucks in my opinion have the toughest matchups for Bam but he’s shown to be able to dominate both at times. We’ll see

Damn. Yeah we'll see. Boston is cooking rn...but so is Bam.

Rob wasn't himself in that series, he was limited, but yeah Horford is still a competent defender, and very mobile. However I did notice that during that series, when Bam had it going they made it an effort to send an early double and flashed second defenders often unfortunately our shooters where crap and couldn't make them pay. I don't think Bam has the offensive arsenal to go 1v1 with Rob and be efficient at it in a long series.

Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:04 pm
by 3ammy3uck3ts
Rob is a good player, Bam is a far better player lol let’s not act like Rob is some elite superstar or something

Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:07 pm
by 3ammy3uck3ts
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Bam could never improve again and Rob would never be better than him.

Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:13 pm
by 3ammy3uck3ts
Bam shot 78% from the field when defended by Rob Williams in the ECF. 53% when defended by Al Horford.

He simply needs the touches and shot attempts, nothing more.

Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:38 pm
by IceColdCubano
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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Bam could never improve again and Rob would never be better than him.

Looks like we need to go away from using Bam as a pivot/hockey assist passer at the top of the key and more into a scorer. When he is producing at a high level his Assist tend to go below his averages, Spo loves using him with those DHO's and high post passing, which is great in some instances, but that cannot be our bread and butter. Him in the pick and roll should be his main food on offense.

Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:48 pm
by IceColdCubano
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Rob is a good player, Bam is a far better player lol let’s not act like Rob is some elite superstar or something

Robs only advantage is his athleticism, strength, length and ability to cover lots of ground quickly. Outside of that he is a terrible offensive player. Nobody is saying otherwise, I would be wary of using FG% as a defensive metric vs a player. You can see Bam get some quick easy pocket passes, and lobs/dunks early in the game which shows his FG% in the elite range vs a player like Rob, then the clamp goes in and he gets denied access to the ball, our team struggles to get him the ball in good spots because the defense adjust. Then we go into ISO ball, which is our biggest struggle when our 3ball in't falling. We always talk a lot about going away from Bam in the game after the first couple quarters, but we never really look at how the other team adjust at the Half, after Bam is in a groove. If you take Bam out of the game, and deny him the ball other people have to bring it home, ie Jimmy has done an excellent job in the playoffs. However our other guys really have struggled with their outside shooting which opens everything up for us, outside of the bubble rounds our 4-9 players haven't brought it.

Re: Heat vs Celtics - 30 November

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:48 pm
by Flash4thewin
IceColdCubano wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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Bam could never improve again and Rob would never be better than him.

Looks like we need to go away from using Bam as a pivot/hockey assist passer at the top of the key and more into a scorer. When he is producing at a high level his Assist tend to go below his averages, Spo loves using him with those DHO's and high post passing, which is great in some instances, but that cannot be our bread and butter. Him in the pick and roll should be his main food on offense.


Totally agree 100%