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2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#1 » by DayofMourning » Mon Oct 21, 2024 12:21 pm

Im excited about the potential of this season. All the young guys. The quality mix of veterans. Players eager to make a name for themselves on this team. Could be a good one!

First game is days away. Wednesday October 23rd.

Dont forget to cast your votes in Rex's thread so we can all praise you later!

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Post#2 » by contract » Mon Oct 21, 2024 12:28 pm

In! 8-)


If anyone wants to get their annual regular season predictions in before the season starts ... https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=2408932

Otherwise you all suck. :nod:
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Post#3 » by RexBoyWonder » Mon Oct 21, 2024 1:30 pm

I might be wrong, But I think a significant part of the fan base kinds checked out when we didn't pull any major moves this off season.

To be honest it does feel a bit anti-climatic - this sort of running it back stronger them, but I honestly think that we have just enough fresh blood and inner growth to get me hyped.

Rozier with a full training camp,
Herro jacked and more focused,
Jovic breaking out,
Bam with a 3 ball,
Jamie more comfortable,
Larsson and Ware potential,

It could be a very good fun season if things break right.
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Post#4 » by twix2500 » Mon Oct 21, 2024 3:59 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:I might be wrong, But I think a significant part of the fan base kinds checked out when we didn't pull any major moves this off season.

To be honest it does feel a bit anti-climatic - this sort of running it back stronger them, but I honestly think that we have just enough fresh blood and inner growth to get me hyped.

Rozier with a full training camp,
Herro jacked and more focused,
Jovic breaking out,
Bam with a 3 ball,
Jamie more comfortable,
Larsson and Ware potential,

It could be a very good fun season if things break right.


What funny is that about 8 years ago, this room was clamouring for having a trio that was gonna last a long time and not have a trio that is only here for three years. There was a lot of complaints about Riley always going after the big name player for short term success and not having a core for the long term. The whole Spurs do it right group. I believe that group was also that loud group against the idea of trading for Butler. The Heat given those fans what they want. The Heat have been reloading around Herro, Bam and Butler for five years. Been to two NBA finals and One conference finals around the core of Bam, Butler and Herro. The fourth teir go-too player has been in reloading rotation; Nunn, Dragic, Oladipo, Lowry and now Rozier. The Heat have reloaded from Crowder, Iguadala, Tucker, Martin to Highsmith. The Heat have reloaded Olynyk, Leonard to Jovic. Whats new to the equation is Jamie and possibly Parsson and Ware.
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Post#5 » by twix2500 » Mon Oct 21, 2024 4:17 pm

From the preseason it is interesting to see the rotation set up and with the contracts

PG: Rozier - Smith - Richardson
SG: Herro - Robinson - Burke - Larsson - Christopher
SF: Butler - Jaquez Jr.
PF: Jovic - Highsmith - Johnson
Ce: Adebayo - Love - Bryant - Ware

Whats is interesting is Smith remained as a two-way player which means he is limited to the amount of games he plays. That backup point position remains in competition. It looks like Richardson and Larsson will be given a chance the next month to beat out Smith. I am hoping Larsson can step up.

I am wondering if Christopher, Johnson and Ware will be going to the G-League for development?

or will that 2nd unit be Jaquez - Burke - Robinson - Highsmith and Love?
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Post#6 » by Bishop45 » Mon Oct 21, 2024 4:56 pm

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Post#7 » by al bondiga » Mon Oct 21, 2024 5:09 pm

I totally agree with rex, Running it back Is this Very Disconcerting
But but on the flip side we have a stronger cohesive unit.
That will most Probably not win A championship as is, but It should
Be a fun season, The team is tight!
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Post#8 » by Kobewade11 » Mon Oct 21, 2024 7:03 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:I might be wrong, But I think a significant part of the fan base kinds checked out when we didn't pull any major moves this off season.

To be honest it does feel a bit anti-climatic - this sort of running it back stronger them, but I honestly think that we have just enough fresh blood and inner growth to get me hyped.

Rozier with a full training camp,
Herro jacked and more focused,
Jovic breaking out,
Bam with a 3 ball,
Jamie more comfortable,
Larsson and Ware potential,

It could be a very good fun season if things break right.


I dont think they checked out, there just wasn't anything to talk or complain about once we got further and further away from the end of the season/free agency period. They'll be back in full swing here in a couple of weeks, for good or bad reasons.
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Post#9 » by Bishop45 » Mon Oct 21, 2024 7:34 pm

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Post#10 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Oct 21, 2024 8:42 pm

twix2500 wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:I might be wrong, But I think a significant part of the fan base kinds checked out when we didn't pull any major moves this off season.

To be honest it does feel a bit anti-climatic - this sort of running it back stronger them, but I honestly think that we have just enough fresh blood and inner growth to get me hyped.

Rozier with a full training camp,
Herro jacked and more focused,
Jovic breaking out,
Bam with a 3 ball,
Jamie more comfortable,
Larsson and Ware potential,

It could be a very good fun season if things break right.


What funny is that about 8 years ago, this room was clamouring for having a trio that was gonna last a long time and not have a trio that is only here for three years. There was a lot of complaints about Riley always going after the big name player for short term success and not having a core for the long term. The whole Spurs do it right group. I believe that group was also that loud group against the idea of trading for Butler. The Heat given those fans what they want. The Heat have been reloading around Herro, Bam and Butler for five years. Been to two NBA finals and One conference finals around the core of Bam, Butler and Herro. The fourth teir go-too player has been in reloading rotation; Nunn, Dragic, Oladipo, Lowry and now Rozier. The Heat have reloaded from Crowder, Iguadala, Tucker, Martin to Highsmith. The Heat have reloaded Olynyk, Leonard to Jovic. Whats new to the equation is Jamie and possibly Parsson and Ware.


If you’re including Herro that’s not a real trio, he’s not good enough to be mentioned in the same sentence as the other 2 yet and likely ever.
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Post#11 » by twix2500 » Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:37 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:I might be wrong, But I think a significant part of the fan base kinds checked out when we didn't pull any major moves this off season.

To be honest it does feel a bit anti-climatic - this sort of running it back stronger them, but I honestly think that we have just enough fresh blood and inner growth to get me hyped.

Rozier with a full training camp,
Herro jacked and more focused,
Jovic breaking out,
Bam with a 3 ball,
Jamie more comfortable,
Larsson and Ware potential,

It could be a very good fun season if things break right.


What funny is that about 8 years ago, this room was clamouring for having a trio that was gonna last a long time and not have a trio that is only here for three years. There was a lot of complaints about Riley always going after the big name player for short term success and not having a core for the long term. The whole Spurs do it right group. I believe that group was also that loud group against the idea of trading for Butler. The Heat given those fans what they want. The Heat have been reloading around Herro, Bam and Butler for five years. Been to two NBA finals and One conference finals around the core of Bam, Butler and Herro. The fourth teir go-too player has been in reloading rotation; Nunn, Dragic, Oladipo, Lowry and now Rozier. The Heat have reloaded from Crowder, Iguadala, Tucker, Martin to Highsmith. The Heat have reloaded Olynyk, Leonard to Jovic. Whats new to the equation is Jamie and possibly Parsson and Ware.


If you’re including Herro that’s not a real trio, he’s not good enough to be mentioned in the same sentence as the other 2 yet and likely ever.


3Hammy you are not part of that group so you can't defend what they wanted. The loud majority before Butler wanted to have patience with Bam, Herro and Winslow. This room didn't want Durant or Butler. A small maj6r wanted Durant and especially Butler. This room wanted to give 10 yrs to a drafted trio
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Post#12 » by Kobewade11 » Mon Oct 21, 2024 11:00 pm

twix2500 wrote:The loud majority before Butler wanted to have patience with Bam, Herro and Winslow. This room didn't want Durant or Butler. A small maj6r wanted Durant and especially Butler. This room wanted to give 10 yrs to a drafted trio

Timeline slightly off, it was J-rich, not Herro.. Herro wasnt even a known commodity at the time we landed Jimmy.
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Post#13 » by DayofMourning » Mon Oct 21, 2024 11:38 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:
twix2500 wrote:The loud majority before Butler wanted to have patience with Bam, Herro and Winslow. This room didn't want Durant or Butler. A small maj6r wanted Durant and especially Butler. This room wanted to give 10 yrs to a drafted trio

Timeline slightly off, it was J-rich, not Herro.. Herro wasnt even a known commodity at the time we landed Jimmy.


I remember not wanting to trade Rich for Butler....lmao.

I was on the wrong side of history there.
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Post#14 » by carnageta » Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:23 am

We're back already, huh? Hope everyone had a great offseason. Missed ya'll, broski's.


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Post#15 » by oreon » Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:55 am

Honestly. I don't really care much for this season outside the young guys doing better. It's gonna end like it usually does and these 1st/2nd round exits get old. If were gonna be doing that for 2-3 seasons why not just tank for those seasons. If it ends like that again, I hope Riley pulls the plug on this core and rebuilds.
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Post#16 » by wadenation305 » Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:39 pm

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Post#17 » by AirP. » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:47 pm

twix2500 wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:I might be wrong, But I think a significant part of the fan base kinds checked out when we didn't pull any major moves this off season.

To be honest it does feel a bit anti-climatic - this sort of running it back stronger them, but I honestly think that we have just enough fresh blood and inner growth to get me hyped.

Rozier with a full training camp,
Herro jacked and more focused,
Jovic breaking out,
Bam with a 3 ball,
Jamie more comfortable,
Larsson and Ware potential,

It could be a very good fun season if things break right.


What funny is that about 8 years ago, this room was clamouring for having a trio that was gonna last a long time and not have a trio that is only here for three years. There was a lot of complaints about Riley always going after the big name player for short term success and not having a core for the long term. The whole Spurs do it right group. I believe that group was also that loud group against the idea of trading for Butler. The Heat given those fans what they want. The Heat have been reloading around Herro, Bam and Butler for five years. Been to two NBA finals and One conference finals around the core of Bam, Butler and Herro. The fourth teir go-too player has been in reloading rotation; Nunn, Dragic, Oladipo, Lowry and now Rozier. The Heat have reloaded from Crowder, Iguadala, Tucker, Martin to Highsmith. The Heat have reloaded Olynyk, Leonard to Jovic. Whats new to the equation is Jamie and possibly Parsson and Ware.


I wouldn't say Herro was part of a trio that got the Heat deep in the playoffs. That first year (2020) it was a great trio of Butler, Dragic (was the leading scorer before hurt) and Bam, in 2022 it was Butler and Bam with really nobody else standing and the same thing happened the next year. Herro basically wasn't a major part of any of the deep runs although he had an incredible playoff game his rookie season. All Miami needed was a vet scorer like Dragic for better scoring consistency to go with the 2 great 2-way players, yet this FO just refused to add one and stayed with drafting players. Miami still does not have that consistant scoring vet to go with Butler and Bam although if Spoelstra rides who's got the hot hand, maybe you can get that from Herro, Robinson and Burks but wow... spending 50 million on Herro and Robinson would probably be better spent on star to have a better chance of having what you need and.

Now during the regular season with Herro as a reserve and starter
.603, .556 (short offseason), .646 were the winning % in the regular seasons when Herro was mostly a reserve.
.537 and .561 were the winning % with Herro a starter.

Herro has some great qualities like shot making (in big moments) and a great 3pt% shot while also delivering low TS% because of his shot selection and below average defense yet this FO pushed him to do more. Now it looks like his role may be a little more limited where he's basically a little more aggressive Duncan Robinson which should make him more efficient which will help the team. The playoff runs after the 2020 season may have looked better had Miami had the Dragic equivalent vet to go with Butler and Bam, we may be talking about someone like a CJ McCollum type.

Miami needs to find its star replacement when Butler is gone or there's going to be some dark times.
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Post#18 » by AirP. » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:49 pm

With the national expectations low, this is the type of season where Spoelstra would have a higher-than-normal chance at COTY.
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Post#19 » by KingDavid » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:57 pm

Should be a fun season. Looking forward to seeing the young guys flourish.
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