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Wiggins vs Butler

This one’s a tough one.. we need the loss for a top pick but also need the win against jimmy

Heat_Down_Under wrote:This one’s a tough one.. we need the loss for a top pick but also need the win against jimmy

As long as the bulls, spurs and the teams ahead of us win, its ok. I highly douby we can move into the 7th pick with 12 games left.

We can win 4.7 out of our last 11 games to keep our current winning percentage. We good fam.

Wiggins with the Heat
21.0ppg 48fg% 36% 3pt 4 rpg 3apg

Butler with Warriors
17.6ppg 44fg% 23% 3pt 6 rbg 5.5apg

Getting this W is argubly more important than the L. This could help push GS in the playin spot if they lose.

Moneyball_Spo wrote:Getting this W is argubly more important than the L. This could help push GS in the playin spot if they lose.

We def want this one. We can then lose the rest. Our magic number is 47 losses.

vagelis wrote:Wiggins with the Heat
21.0ppg 48fg% 36% 3pt 4 rpg 3apg

Butler with Warriors
17.6ppg 44fg% 23% 3pt 6 rbg 5.5apg

Wiggins with the Heat: 3-10

Jimmy with the Warriors: 16-3

Needed the Hornets loss so we could root for a win in this one; we won’t win regardless though.

vagelis wrote:Wiggins with the Heat
21.0ppg 48fg% 36% 3pt 4 rpg 3apg

Butler with Warriors
17.6ppg 44fg% 23% 3pt 6 rbg 5.5apg

I have to watch fully watch the last two games. But it appears the Heat allowed Wiggins to bring the ball up more. Forcing a bigger defender to come out of the paint.

twix2500 wrote:

vagelis wrote:Wiggins with the Heat
21.0ppg 48fg% 36% 3pt 4 rpg 3apg

Butler with Warriors
17.6ppg 44fg% 23% 3pt 6 rbg 5.5apg

I have to watch fully watch the last two games. But it appears the Heat allowed Wiggins to bring the ball up more. Forcing a bigger defender to come out of the paint.

Wiggins explodes when he plays at the top and gets screens.
This was the case in Minesota when he had a 24ppg season at 21yo.

I wrote this for 5 years in Warriors forum, give screens to Wiggins but Kerr was allergic to iso ball and pick and rolls for any player not named Curry.
The posters there thought Wiggins is a 3&d player because he was used like that.

Wiggins has nothing to do with a 3&d player and Spoelstra knows it very well

vagelis wrote:

twix2500 wrote:

vagelis wrote:Wiggins with the Heat
21.0ppg 48fg% 36% 3pt 4 rpg 3apg

Butler with Warriors
17.6ppg 44fg% 23% 3pt 6 rbg 5.5apg

I have to watch fully watch the last two games. But it appears the Heat allowed Wiggins to bring the ball up more. Forcing a bigger defender to come out of the paint.

Wiggins explodes when he plays at the top and gets screens.
This was the case in Minesota when he had a 24ppg season at 21yo.

I wrote this for 5 years in Warriors forum, give screens to Wiggins but Kerr was allergic to iso ball and pick and rolls for any player not named Curry.
The posters there thought Wiggins is a 3&d player because he was used like that.

Wiggins has nothing to do with a 3&d player and Spoelstra knows it very well

Well I know one thing. Wiggins is not good coming off of DHOs. But he is one of the better post up players in the league. The passing has been my biggest concern since hes been with the Heat.

vagelis wrote:

twix2500 wrote:

vagelis wrote:Wiggins with the Heat
21.0ppg 48fg% 36% 3pt 4 rpg 3apg

Butler with Warriors
17.6ppg 44fg% 23% 3pt 6 rbg 5.5apg

I have to watch fully watch the last two games. But it appears the Heat allowed Wiggins to bring the ball up more. Forcing a bigger defender to come out of the paint.

Wiggins explodes when he plays at the top and gets screens.
This was the case in Minesota when he had a 24ppg season at 21yo.

I wrote this for 5 years in Warriors forum, give screens to Wiggins but Kerr was allergic to iso ball and pick and rolls for any player not named Curry.
The posters there thought Wiggins is a 3&d player because he was used like that.

Wiggins has nothing to do with a 3&d player and Spoelstra knows it very well

Curious, when he was averaging 23.6 PPG, was he doing it efficiently?

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

vagelis wrote:

twix2500 wrote:

I have to watch fully watch the last two games. But it appears the Heat allowed Wiggins to bring the ball up more. Forcing a bigger defender to come out of the paint.

Wiggins explodes when he plays at the top and gets screens.
This was the case in Minesota when he had a 24ppg season at 21yo.

I wrote this for 5 years in Warriors forum, give screens to Wiggins but Kerr was allergic to iso ball and pick and rolls for any player not named Curry.
The posters there thought Wiggins is a 3&d player because he was used like that.

Wiggins has nothing to do with a 3&d player and Spoelstra knows it very well

Curious, when he was averaging 23.6 PPG, was he doing it efficiently?

I think the problem with Wiggins when he was in Minny, his defense wasnt good. It got good once Iggy got a hold of him in GS.

twix2500 wrote:
Well I know one thing. Wiggins is not good coming off of DHOs. But he is one of the better post up players in the league. The passing has been my biggest concern since hes been with the Heat.

He is not a flashy passer and not a creative passer but he finds the open man when he drives.

He had turnovers in the first games but this was because he didnt know the team and the system.
He does not commit turnovers in general. He makes good decisions.

twix2500 wrote:

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

vagelis wrote:
Wiggins explodes when he plays at the top and gets screens.
This was the case in Minesota when he had a 24ppg season at 21yo.

I wrote this for 5 years in Warriors forum, give screens to Wiggins but Kerr was allergic to iso ball and pick and rolls for any player not named Curry.
The posters there thought Wiggins is a 3&d player because he was used like that.

Wiggins has nothing to do with a 3&d player and Spoelstra knows it very well

Curious, when he was averaging 23.6 PPG, was he doing it efficiently?

I think the problem with Wiggins when he was in Minny, his defense wasnt good. It got good once Iggy got a hold of him in GS.

His offense wasn’t either

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

vagelis wrote:

twix2500 wrote:

I have to watch fully watch the last two games. But it appears the Heat allowed Wiggins to bring the ball up more. Forcing a bigger defender to come out of the paint.

Wiggins explodes when he plays at the top and gets screens.
This was the case in Minesota when he had a 24ppg season at 21yo.

I wrote this for 5 years in Warriors forum, give screens to Wiggins but Kerr was allergic to iso ball and pick and rolls for any player not named Curry.
The posters there thought Wiggins is a 3&d player because he was used like that.

Wiggins has nothing to do with a 3&d player and Spoelstra knows it very well

Curious, when he was averaging 23.6 PPG, was he doing it efficiently?

He had 23.6 ppg 45fg% 36% 3pt
I think it is not bad for a 21 yo player

He is a better player and more skilled now

The game we have been waiting for. Jimmy put us in this position and we gotta show him that "joy" lol.

Must win game.

Win -> Better draft position for the GSW pick, should be between 17-22
Lose -> Better draft position for their own pick, should be between 8-11