Would you like Pat Riley to retire?

[salqaddoumi]

So, the question is whether or not you would like Pat Riley to resign as Heat coach and GM.

Personally, I think he needs to go. The play calling on both ends of the floor is disgusting for the Heat right now, the "ultimate motivator" in him has done nothing of the sort, and he has made some very bad personnel decisions. I believe he needs to just move on and atleast give up coaching if not all his duties. It's very unlikely that this happens but my question is for you guys, the actual Heat fans.

[DBurks2818]

At this point I'd like to just see Spoelstra in there to groom the 5-6 young guys on the roster to flesh out next year's squad. That way Riley can just focus on being GM, as he's still one of the best in the league.

That said, the problem with this team isn't the coach, I think.

[Flash3]

He's not going to quit on this team on the eve of entering the Hall of Fame.

And No!

He 'created' this mess, and he's going to have to FIX it.

[salqaddoumi]

Well yeah, he's definitely not the entire problem but I think he's a part of it.

The players are obviously the ones who should be taking the blunt of the criticism during struggles, but the coach is the one who is supposed to prepare them and try to put them in a position to succeed and I don't think Riles is doing that. I mean think about our offensive play book, it's pathetic. I don't know if you can even call it a play book at this point, it just doesn't work with this type of team. We don't have the shooters we've had in the past.

[MartyConlonJr]

Problem is Spoelstra is probably the guy that should coach the rest of this season, but Riley should be the guy to coach the next 2 all things considered. Riley can't 'take another holiday' becuase 07-08 went down the tubes, and start again, and he can't do what people percieved he was doing to Stan Van Gundy by coming back when the ship has righted.

He needs to stick it out, maybe he can hand some of the duties to Spoelstra to give him a feel for it, but still maintain control as head coach.

And hell to the no for Riley retiring as GM. This mess is not on him. It's on the players, and to an extent, the luxury tax concerns of the owner. Look at any preseason preview and we were expected to be much higher. These players just never got it together.

[G.cracker]

If we stay with a post presence, wither with Shaq or with a trade or FA like JON, Brand, etc., then I'm for staying with Riley. But we need a PG to run his offense. If we are just run and gun, I'm good with Spoelstra, but Riley will wait until the summer to step down and remain as President.

[D-Wade]

He 'created' this mess, and he's going to have to FIX it.

+2

I have a hard time believing that Riley's not gonna blow this team up in the near future. That, and the fact that a guy like Derrick Rose should be able to contribute heavily from the get go. In Riles we trust.

[salqaddoumi]

And hell to the no for Riley retiring as GM. This mess is not on him. It's on the players, and to an extent, the luxury tax concerns of the owner. Look at any preseason preview and we were expected to be much higher. These players just never got it together.

That bolded part isn't really true though. We were seeded like 8-10 in most of the ESPN predictions and likewise for other sites. I was going crazy calling them haters at that point but I guess I had my bias shades on because they turned out to be right. I wouldn't call those predictions "that much higher".

Plus, you have to admit Riley has made some pretty bad personnel decisions. Letting go of Posey/Kapono not included because that goes on our greedy owner who didn't want to pay the luxury tax.

[MartyConlonJr]

I honestly believe if we had kept one of Kapono or Posey we'd be a playoff team now, or on the cusp. We've lost far too many close games and games where we can't shoot and either Kapono making 50% 3 of his threes or Posey making shots and getting key stops down the stretch would have really shored that up.

[Number34]

He does need to lift his game but all this sucking balls isn't all his fault. But maybe we could have made some trades if pat has his mind just on being the gm....

[pramis123]

Although Riles has had a terrible year as coach and GM, with none of his moves working out, I am not going to treat him like we did Don Shula. Reading this reminds me of when everyone wanted Shula to go, and then Marino to go, and look at the mess the Dolphins are today. Riles has had a terrible year, but he will get it right. I just hope he does not sacrifice our long term sucess for a short term fix for this year, which I think is impossible. Through this year away record wise, trade everyone you can for expiring contracts and keep Wade, Wright, Cook to build with.

[SUKit]

Riley has done all he can with the assets he has been giving. If anything you should blame Micky for not going over the cap to get the players we needed, not Riley.

[TheGreatPooter]

he can retire as long as he comes back when were a contender.

spolly to the future.

[TheGreatPooter]

I honestly believe if we had kept one of Kapono or Posey we'd be a playoff team now, or on the cusp. We've lost far too many close games and games where we can't shoot and either Kapono making 50% 3 of his threes or Posey making shots and getting key stops down the stretch would have really shored that up.

wed probably have won a few more games. nothing major. whats hurting us is not having zo to bail out our terrible defense.

[GameTime_3]

As much as i thin Riley is part of the problem this year,I still think he is a great mind and if he can play a more up-tempo style of offense then no.After all Ron RothStink would probley be next. In Riley i Trust

[Hoops23]

You cannot measure Riley over all accomplishment for the Heat just for this season alone. I still believe he is the best thing that ever happens for this franchise.

I disagree about calling for his resignation.

The man done so much to this franchise and I doubt to see a title if not for him. I doubt to see Shaq nor Zo and any other big name players because of how he lures them.

I don

[HIF]

Keep Riley you turncoat, bandwagon jumping losers.

[CoolD]

No. As bad a job Pat has done this one year. He is a legend, and if you think their is better coaches out there, beware.

Maybe if Pat finds a young new coach, he could give his coaching duties, but Riley is still a big asset in the front office.

So if we had Van Gundy young bright talent, I might want to move Riley out of coaching, but I still want him to be part of the organization, Riley knows alot about the NBA, not just about coaching, about every single aspect of running an NBA team.

[Chessboxer]

As much as a miserable season this has been no, I don't want Riley to go. Because he was limited by luxury tax, and things considered he did all he could in the offseasno. He was fairly aggressive in pursuing Williamsand if it was up to him, Kapono and Posey would have stayed. Pat worked with what he had.

I think people need to look at the big picture. This is not the team Riley envisioned coaching, but he is working with it. He's purposely signed modest contracts in order to build around Wade in the near future. This season will be a distant memory once the team gets the cap flexibility and consequently the the players to build around Wade.


Like everybody else I believe this team is not elite but should be doing better than it has. However when you do consider Wade rebounding from an injury, injury conce4rns to Shaq/Quinn, several new rotation players, holes in the roster like outside shooting its not all on Riley. This team is not as bad as our record show. I wish I could find a stat on teams who have lost by five or less points so far in the season, but a lot of our losses are very close. That boils down to late game execution, and that comes from an experienced team and/or a superstar taking over if necessary. With Wade slowly getting back we've had neither.

I haven't been able to see all the games, but there is also a question of effort and desire. Maybe the guys who get Sun can verify this. Several games this year the team at times does not hustle, play defense, or play with any intensity. The last game I saw against the Cavs REALLY bad. The team gives up leads, comes out flat after halftime, and there seems to be a lack of competitive desire I think Riley is doing his part, but the players are not listening. At some point, you have to take responsibility as a professional athlete to play with effort, and shouldn't rely on the coach, especially when said coach makes repeated several efforts.

[Heat3]

Yeah, lets throw Riley out and turn the Heat into the mess the Miami Dolphins are.