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Not only is Shaquille O'Neal's hip injury legit, it might be more serious than initially thought.
Or it just might be part of getting old.
. How do retired players count against the cap?
Any money paid to a player is included in team salary, even if the player has retired. For example, James Worthy retired in 1994, two years before his contract ended. He continued to receive his salary for the 1994-95 and 1995-96 seasons, so his salary was included in the Lakers' team salary in those seasons. It is at the team's discretion (or as the result of an agreement between the team and player) whether to continue to pay the player after he has retired.
There is one exception whereby a player can continue to receive his salary, but the salary is not included in the team's team salary. This is when a player is forced to retire for medical reasons and a league-appointed physician confirms that he is medically unfit to continue playing. There is a waiting period of one year following the injury or illness before a team can apply for this salary cap relief. If the waiting period expires mid-season (on any date prior to the last day of the regular season), then the player's entire salary for that season is removed from the team's team salary. For example, in March 2003 the Knicks were allowed to remove Luc Longley's entire 2002-03 salary from their books (and since the luxury tax is based on the team salary as of the last day of the regular season, the Knicks avoided paying any tax on Longley's salary). This provision can also be used when a player dies while under contract.
Teams are not allowed to trade for disabled players and then apply for this salary cap relief. Only the team for which the player was playing when he was disabled may request this relief.
If a player retires, even for medical reasons, his team does not receive a salary cap exception to acquire a replacement player.
DISABLED PLAYER EXCEPTION -- This exception allows a team which is over the cap to acquire a replacement for a disabled player who will be out for the remainder of that season (if the player is disabled between July 1 and November 30) or the following season (if the player is disabled after November 30). This exception can also be granted in the event of a player's death. This exception can only be used to acquire one player. The maximum salary for the replacement player is 50% of the injured player's salary, or the average salary, whichever is less (see question number 24 for the definition of "average salary"). Approval from the league (based on a determination by an NBA-designated physician) is required for this exception to be used. This exception can be used to sign a free agent, or to create room to accept a salary in trade. When used for trade, the team may acquire a player whose salary (including any trade bonus) is up to 100% of this exception plus $100,000 (not 125%). Also see question number 20 for more information on the availability and use of this exception.
If a player is disabled between July 1 and November 30, the team must acquire the replacement player within 45 days. If the player is disabled between December 1 and June 30, then the team has until October 1 to sign a replacement. If the disabled player comes back sooner than expected, then he may be activated immediately, and the replacement player is not affected. However, if the disabled player comes back before the exception is used, then the exception is lost.
Teams sometimes have had difficulty getting the NBA to approve an injury exception. For example, Danny Manning tore an ACL toward the end of the 1997-98 season, yet the NBA did not approve the Suns for this exception. More recently, the Magic did not receive this exception in 2003 for Grant Hill. However, this exception was granted in the 1999 offseason to San Antonio, so they could replace Sean Elliott, who was disabled due to kidney problems. This exception was also granted to Charlotte soon after Bobby Phills was killed.
Don't confuse this exception with the salary cap relief teams can apply for a year after losing a player to a career-ending injury or death (see question number 53). This exception allows a team to acquire a replacement player. The salary cap relief removes a contract from the books.
yeah, but I am sure insurance covers that 40M (especially since I can't recall Shaq having prior hip problems), which is a big issue. And the 20M per year in cap space.G.cracker wrote:per the rules, we can't get one if he retires. The league would determine if we get one (essentially an extra MLE to use by 10/1 since it is less than the $10M 50% of his deal), and would probably give it since he is a vital piece of the team (and league) and his salary is such a big portion. We got it for Zo and he came back later that year! Shaq just couldn't come back until we used the MLE or we'd lose it. I doubt he'd mind. But if he retires (I doubt he wants to go out like this), then the league waits a calendar year and if he's still retired, his salary will come off the books next year and the year after, even though Arison still pays him $40M. BUT, we can't trade him and have the receiving team get that benefit.
Inspired in the least bit.Lane1974 wrote:why not? Does he seem inspired to you? Has he seemed inspired since the title in the teeniest bit? He can't physically perform anymore. He seems weary of it all for me. If his hip is bothering him (and even Ira says its legit and bad) and the NBA docs declare him permanently hurt, this is a perfect way to go out. He can still collect his full $, he has a million other interests. Not everyone goes out like John Elway.
Mars wrote:You can't stop the asterisk... you can only hope to contain it.
