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If we would not have traded for shaq
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:05 pm
by SportsPlaya11
What if, what if, what if.
Look at where we are now. We would not have picked Dorell Wright and we would have gotten Jameer Nelson since we had a SF in Caron.
Our starting lineup would look something like this.
PG- Jameer Nelson
SG- Dwyane Wade
SF- Caron Butler
PF- Lamar Odom
C- ???
Thats the question. Who would be playing Center. Brian Grant retired. I still think those 4 would be dominant, but, without a major center we would not be amazing. We would not be talking about possibly drafting 1st overall, instead we would be contending for the division once again.
Plus, we wouldnt be paying shaqs huge contract. Meaning we couldve kept Kapno/Posey and made a splash in FA
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:10 pm
by BBallFreak
And we wouldn't have won a championship. We'd be the Washington Wizards.
I'm OK with this year. The 'ship was worth it...
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:13 pm
by Lane1974
and we wouldn't have a thread like this posted every two weeks
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:39 pm
by Flash3
I tell you, I really do....Some people are just mind-numbingly back-wards in their thinking.
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:30 pm
by og15
BBallFreak wrote:And we wouldn't have won a championship. We'd be the Washington Wizards.
I'm OK with this year. The 'ship was worth it...
That was the exact response that came to my head when I saw this.
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:48 pm
by kyphi
bull hockey - he brought the Heat a ring - remember Riley said to enjoy it; he knew what was down the road
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:15 pm
by MartyConlonJr
We'd have been
C - Blount / Doleac
PF - Odom / Grant
SF - Butler / Butler
SG - Wade / Jones
PG - Alston / Nelson
We would have been better than the Wizards. Possibly made a finals by now or even won a 'chip, have a bright future (would have Jordan Farmar or equivalent draft pick + Cook + Simien). Probably would have moved Jones or Grant when they were expiring for a star player. We'd be in contention right now.
But our team won a championship.
The worst thing that came from the Shaq trade IMO, was the change in attitude in Wade. Shaq's 'She'll be right' attitude really has rubbed off on Wade unfortunately. We'd probably have a hungrier Wade if Shaq wasn't here.
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:40 pm
by Bayernfan
Yes for sure we would had Odom/Wade/Butler, they all would play for peanats. You all past lovers forget that Grant/Jones were earning 29 Million Dollars together and Arison is "no tax lover".
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:48 pm
by CoolD
If people think we would be like the Wizards, I dont' think so. For one, the Heat would have much better Defense than the Wizards. Another thing, we would be extremelly well rounded, but wouldn't rely on three pointers all day. We would be a quite unique team.
And yeah, Wade would be quite hungrier, he would be playing with a something to prove attitude. It does seem Shaq brought the good with the bad to Miami.
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:55 pm
by Bayernfan
Lets blame O'Neal for everything...

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:32 pm
by D-Wade
BBallFreak wrote:And we wouldn't have won a championship. We'd be the Washington Wizards.
I'm OK with this year. The 'ship was worth it...
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:49 pm
by shaqfan1
I heard it was Shaq who told Damon Jones to turnover the ball against the Pistons in game 7 of the ECF.
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:02 pm
by Flash3
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:13 pm
by MartyConlonJr
Bayernfan wrote:Yes for sure we would had Odom/Wade/Butler, they all would play for peanats. You all past lovers forget that Grant/Jones were earning 29 Million Dollars together and Arison is "no tax lover".
Eh, last season Jones ($14.5 mill), Butler ($7.5 mill), Wade ($3.5 mill) and Odom (12.5 mill) would have been $38 million. Grant woulda been waived in the amnesty rule thing, costing us no tax. Wade's extension woulda kicked in this season as Jones ended. We'd be in great financial position. I'd still do the trade anyway.
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:05 am
by FlaMoses
I posted this before on this subject matter:
14 of the 30 teams in the league have NEVER won a Championship. Ask any of them if they would do the Shaq trade.
It has also been over 20 years for 8 of the 16 who have won and for 6 of the 16 its been over 30 years! Ask them if they would do the Shaq trade.
So ask yourself again, Would you do the Shaq trade? No brainer, YES!
If we didn't do the Shaq trade, we would have had a really nice team now, but no guarantees of a championship. My guess is we wouldn't yet.
Did we get lucky versus Dallas? Maybe. But it still says NEVER next to Dallas's name on the NBA Champions list.
Team Last NBA title
Sacramento Kings 1951 (as Rochester Royals)
Atlanta Hawks 1958 (as Saint Louis Hawks)
Phoenix Suns never (franchise started in 1968)
Cleveland Cavaliers never (franchise started in 1970)
Los Angeles Clippers never (franchise started in 1970)
Milwaukee Bucks 1971
New York Knicks 1973
Utah Jazz never (franchise started in 1974)
Golden State Warriors 1975
Denver Nuggets never (franchise started in 1976)
Indiana Pacers never (franchise started in 1976)
New Jersey Nets never (franchise started in 1976)
Portland Trail Blazers 1977
Washington Wizards 1978 (as Washington Bullets)
Seattle SuperSonics 1979
Dallas Mavericks never (franchise started in 1980)
Philadelphia 76ers 1983
Boston Celtics 1986
New Orleans Hornets never (franchise started in 1988)
Minnesota Timberwolves never (franchise started in 1989)
Orlando Magic never (franchise started in 1989)
Houston Rockets 1995
Memphis Grizzlies never (franchise started in 1995)
Toronto Raptors never (franchise started in 1995)
Chicago Bulls 1998
Los Angeles Lakers 2002
Detroit Pistons 2004
Charlotte Bobcats never (franchise started in 2004)
Miami Heat 2006
San Antonio Spurs 2007
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:13 am
by dunkonu21
hey if the Wizards get credit for the Bullets, Minnesota should get credit for the Minneapolis Lakers

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:01 am
by Heat3
What if we managed to sign Brand in the first place....
What if Harold Miner lived up to the hype....
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:13 am
by Flash3
What if we took TJ Ford over Dwyane Wade.....
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:10 am
by HIF
what if I knew my poppa's name?
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:38 am
by GameTime_3
Wat if Luke Jackson became a allstar when we sign him and lead us to the Chip?