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Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 7:37 am**

What next for the miami heat. Trade Ricky Davis or Jason williams. I kinda want to see what willaims looks like in a run and gun style of play. Also hope that Matrix agrees to opt out and Resign for 4 years 45 million. Also i think banks will be ok with us. Young, Fast PG. Now we just got to make sure we dont start winning games and mess up our lotto pick. Send Mark Blount to anybody.

C-Deandre Jordan
PF-Haslem
SF-Matrix
Sg-Wade
PG- Monte Ellis or Agent Zero

Bench-DQ-Dorrel-Banks-Alexander Johnson....and 2 Free agents and i think we have a very solid team.

Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 7:39 am**

I could see Blount getting packaged with JWill for contracts ending in '09.

Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 7:45 am**

DeAndre Jordan = No chance of starting next year at center

Kevin Love on the other hand does and he might not be as big as Jordan but he has a far better overall game that Jordan. Love would be special on this team if we end up falling out of the Top 5 in the draft.

Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 8:13 am**

ya'll aint touching ellis

Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 8:50 am**

If Shawn Marion opts out, then Elton Brand all the way.

I don't understand how we keep Marion and sign Arenas or Monta though.

Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 8:53 am**

Jordan doesn't even start for Texas A&M, does he? He's a nice project, though.

Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 8:54 am**

Nonetheless, Shawn Marion isn't even worthy of 4-years/$45 million to me. He's about to be 30, and hasn't proved to be more than a product of Phoenix's system.

Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 11:26 am**

D-Whistle wrote:Nonetheless, Shawn Marion isn't even worthy of 4-years/$45 million to me. He's about to be 30, and hasn't proved to be more than a product of Phoenix's system.

LOL. You are on some good stuff, Marion has been doing it before D'Antoni and Nash. Know if you want to say Phoenix started to win more after Nash, ofcourse, just like K.G has started to win more along more talent. People forget the year before Nash came in, Amare was a rookie, he and Marion got to the Playoffs, it was a product of Marion, Amare second's year, D'antoni, plus Nash that made the Phoenix work.

Shawn is easily worth more than 15 million. Especially when you are comparing him to Shaq.

Know the trick will be getting a Center than can play D, and hopefully we draft a pointguard, and we will have a very nice core to built around.

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Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 1:13 pm**

ricky and williams are expirings, i say let them expire and work with the cap room.

btw coolD, The Suns finished the season at 29-53 the year before, and the year before that marbury led them (allstar/3rd team all nba that year), not to mention penny was still servicable.

..and its true marion is not worth it. the most valuable thing to your team is his expiring.

Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 1:18 pm**

Trade them? Please.

That's 13-14 million off the books....In additionto Marion's possible opt out?

Heat would - the cap at around 22 million.

22. Million.

Riles = The Don

Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:08 pm**

CoolD wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

LOL. You are on some good stuff, Marion has been doing it before D'Antoni and Nash. Know if you want to say Phoenix started to win more after Nash, ofcourse, just like K.G has started to win more along more talent. People forget the year before Nash came in, Amare was a rookie, he and Marion got to the Playoffs, it was a product of Marion, Amare second's year, D'antoni, plus Nash that made the Phoenix work.

Shawn is easily worth more than 15 million. Especially when you are comparing him to Shaq.

Know the trick will be getting a Center than can play D, and hopefully we draft a pointguard, and we will have a very nice core to built around.

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First of all, Marion was never compared to Shaq. Fall back.

Now, with all of the meaningless blabber aside, would you break the bank for 30-year old Shawn Marion to be Dwyane Wade's side kick for the present and future? Do you think he'd be the guy, at 32-years old, who'd make Dwyane Wade want to re-sign? Thought so.

Like I said, I wouldn't re-sign/extend Marion's contract.

Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:43 pm**

BFRESH44 wrote:Trade them? Please.

That's 13-14 million off the books....In additionto Marion's possible opt out?

Heat would - the cap at around 22 million.

22. Million.

Riles = The Don

There's a chance that Marion opts out next season, let's say he does. That would leave us with Wade (14.4), Blount (7.3), Haslem (6.5), Banks (4.1), Smush (2.4), Wright (2.4) and Cook (1.2). That's 38ish million in team salary, figure in a top 3 pick (hopefully) at 4 mill or so. That's 42 mill on the books. The 2008-2009 cap will probably be in the 57-58 mill range so it does give us the ability to add a max free agent if we wanted to but it ain't no 22 mill in team salary either.

Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 3:36 pm**

D-Whistle wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Now, with all of the meaningless blabber aside, would you break the bank for 30-year old Shawn Marion to be Dwyane Wade's side kick for the present and future? Do you think he'd be the guy, at 32-years old, who'd make Dwyane Wade want to re-sign? Thought so.

Like I said, I wouldn't re-sign/extend Marion's contract.

30 is really not that old. At all.

We traded for Shaq in his early 30s when he was really out of shape, and age is even a worse of a factor for a huge guy like him. Yet that turned out pretty well for us didn't it?

We're talking about Shawn Marion here, who is extremely athletic and healthy year after year. Not to mention he can run for days. Re-signing him isn't a bad idea at all. Who is better in this year's off-season? Arenas? Nah. Brand? Well he's even older, and just had a serious injury too.

Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 5:23 pm**

HeatInOhio wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

There's a chance that Marion opts out next season, let's say he does. That would leave us with Wade (14.4), Blount (7.3), Haslem (6.5), Banks (4.1), Smush (2.4), Wright (2.4) and Cook (1.2). That's 38ish million in team salary, figure in a top 3 pick (hopefully) at 4 mill or so. That's 42 mill on the books. The 2008-2009 cap will probably be in the 57-58 mill range so it does give us the ability to add a max free agent if we wanted to but it ain't no 22 mill in team salary either.

That looks right. people seem to forget that we are way over the cap right now, so JWill's and Davis' contracts don't get turned into automatic cap space. I would prefer trading them for a player (Bibby? J Oneal? etc) and try to resign Marion at a lower dollar figure. That gives you three certifiable players in Wade/Marion/Trade target and lets you add the lotter pick to that core.

Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 5:27 pm**

I haven't been impressed with Jermaine O'Neal at all. Jwill for a couple of pieces - not a key piece could be interesting though.

Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 6:41 pm**

If Brand is available you guys should definitely go after him and then maybe do a sign and trade for Marion (I'm not sure if you can do that though, would you have to waive Marion's bird rights to sign Brand?). If Brand isn't available then you probably should keep Marion around since there isn't that many better free agents out there that will fit with Wade.

Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 7:14 pm**

I think we have to renounce Marion to be able to sign a max type player.

Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 7:33 pm**

Wow, this thread is pretty dumb.

To the thread maker, that lineup makes no sense. How are we supposed to resign Marion AND sign Arenas? As for trading Ricky and JWill, that makes no sense .. we want their contracts to expire at the end of this season and i'll gladly let them leave while getting nothing in return seeing as how they're useless anyway.

Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 7:45 pm**

^^^Whose the "we" I don't want to let them expire and get nothing.

Posted: **Wed Feb 6, 2008 8:39 pm**

agent zero please

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What next???? Ricky Davis?? Williams??

What next???? Ricky Davis?? Williams??