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Post#1 » by GameTime_3 » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:28 am

OMG! This guy is probley the worst pg to ever be considered good. Does Riley hate Banks? Why does he love Williams? Williams on his best day could not defend and now he cant even score,What good is he? The guy goes up for layup after layup and just pegs it off the backboard. Today vs Philly he was the soul reason we lost our lead. The guy just needs to be waived. Also coming back form the game i heard at least 20 people saying the same thing to one another.

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Post#2 » by dflash3 » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:31 am

I don't like all this hate.
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Post#3 » by BFRESH44 » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:33 am

It's amazing how far he's falling off.

He was a solid as can be during the title year when his knees weren't actually cracking. But he's gotten progressvily worse to the point where he's a bigtime liability on the court. The dude can't finsih in the lane at all, anymore. And he doesn't get the same lift on his ever so streaky jumpshot..And the defense is laughable. Every phase of his game has fallen off.

He needs to retire. Stay home with Denika and the kids my man. You've had a nice career, just call it quits.
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Post#4 » by CoolD » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:40 am

It seems like J Will is no longer starting pg material, I keep on hoping he will snap out of it, but it doesn't happen. I understand being mad at players, I get accused of hating on some, but is only because the losing is getting to me.
But I think in a more limited role, J Williams could be useful, I think he is back up material I might still keep him for a limited role next year if he came back for cheap..
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Post#5 » by BFRESH44 » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:43 am

Nope, would rather have a Chris Duhon (who will be a UFA this off-season)...

He just doesn't have it anymore.

And if we get Derrick Rose, it's bye bye for sure (Banks primary backup)....
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Post#6 » by GameTime_3 » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:45 am

CoolD wrote:It seems like J Will is no longer starting pg material, I keep on hoping he will snap out of it, but it doesn't happen. I understand being mad at players, I get accused of hating on some, but is only because the losing is getting to me.
But I think in a more limited role, J Williams could be useful, I think he is back up material I might still keep him for a limited role next year if he came back for cheap..


To me he is one of the biggest reason we are losing. Tonight was a great example!
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Post#7 » by CoolD » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:50 am

BFRESH44 wrote:Nope, would rather have a Chris Duhon (who will be a UFA this off-season)...

He just doesn't have it anymore.

And if we get Derrick Rose, it's bye bye for sure (Banks primary backup)....
I would have him them as third string PG if Rose came in. Use him as trade bait if he snaped out it and got minutes do to injuries if needed, a team might want him seeing a reemergence of him, I still think as a emergency third string back up, he is better than a guy like Smush if we had him.
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Post#8 » by mitchco » Sun Feb 24, 2008 5:14 am

I have never really been happy with J Will since he came to Miami.

I thought GP kind of got a bad rap during the title season when they all came over from other teams. I thought GP worked better with the starters and Shaq and Wade. I would have liked to see J Will coming off of the bench. I just thought GP did a much better job on defense. He still gets under-appreciated by Heat fans to this day for the job he did during our title run.

J Will just doesn't provide anything anymore. GP atleast still had his defense. J Will does nothing on the court anymore.
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Post#9 » by CB4MiamiHeat » Sun Feb 24, 2008 5:20 am

Is pretty clear that Banks is the better player.

This is a guy that got no minutes in Phx, its scary how many more backup PGs out there are better than Jason Williams.
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Post#11 » by MiamiHeatFan2004 » Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:41 am

Jwill is not a horrible player, he just does not fit with what we are doing and I think he is not even trying anymore, just like Shaq wasn't.

Some players just get sick of Riley after a while and need to leave Miami in order to re-focus. This guy should have been traded by now, we knew he was done in Miami last year.
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Post#12 » by HeatInOhio » Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:14 pm

CB4MiamiHeat wrote:Is pretty clear that Banks is the better player.

This is a guy that got no minutes in Phx, its scary how many more backup PGs out there are better than Jason Williams.



Well, we saw one last night. Louis Williams is twice the player JWon't is right now. I'd be willing to bet, half of the reserve PGs in the league are better. He's just flat out terrible. I have no idea why he gets as many minutes as he does.
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Post#13 » by D21 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:19 pm

its game time wrote:...To me he is one of the biggest reason we are losing. Tonight was a great example!


Hi, not a Heat fan, but I don't understand your hate. Williams playing bad is your best chance to get the best possible pick in the next draft. Wanting him to play right and making your team winning won't help to add talent IMHO.
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Post#14 » by GameTime_3 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:37 am

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Post#15 » by HIF » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:25 am

He seems a really nice guy to me.
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Post#16 » by salqaddoumi » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:04 am

Jason Williams is fine when he's playing within himself and has a good assist to turnover ratio. However lately he's been taking some absolutely ****ing horrible shots. Even tonight against the Kings, he had a great overall game but he took 2-3 shots that made me want to throw up and completely ruined momentum.
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Post#17 » by TheGreatPooter » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:16 am

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Post#18 » by GameTime_3 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:27 am

Todays game shows how much williams is killing the team.When he plays the way a PG should we look good but when williams is well williams we look bad. Another reason why we either draft Bayless or rose. If we cant then we need to get Daniel Gibson. Gibson is my number 1 free agent for the heat. Williams tonite was looking to pass and even showed some flashs of the old williams,But he still had acouple of plays were you said WTF
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Post#19 » by durden_tyler » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:04 am

Yeah, Jwill sucks this year that's because the Heat sucks and he needs players around him for his production to get better.

Can't wait for the offseason when he signs with Orlando. At least he'd be properly used there even as a back-up (which i believe he'll eventually accept)
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Post#20 » by TheGreatPooter » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:05 am

durden_tyler wrote:Yeah, Jwill sucks this year that's because the Heat sucks and he needs players around him for his production to get better.

Can't wait for the offseason when he signs with Orlando. At least he'd be properly used there even as a back-up (which i believe he'll eventually accept)


no jwill sucks cuz he cant make players around him better and he shoots 37%

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