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Post#1 » by pardon_my_interruption » Thu May 22, 2008 8:35 pm

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Post#2 » by Lane1974 » Thu May 22, 2008 8:40 pm

what's the problem?
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Post#3 » by Miami's Finest » Thu May 22, 2008 8:42 pm

I like the plan
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Post#4 » by HeatSince88 » Thu May 22, 2008 8:47 pm

It surprises me he's talking 2010 and not 2009.
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Post#5 » by Lane1974 » Thu May 22, 2008 8:47 pm

we have cap room after 2009, I think he probably means for the having a guy for the 2010 season
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Post#6 » by SJ2100 » Thu May 22, 2008 9:15 pm

We also have cap room after 2010, when Blount and Haslem, not to mention Wade, expire. If we let both of them walk and do not sign anybody longterm, we have a lot of cap room.

Obviously, that means not taking on any long-term deals (Marion extension, Dorell this year, MLE this year, signing somebody in the summer of 2009) - not sure this is gonna end up happening, but it is a completely feasible scenario
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Post#7 » by pardon_my_interruption » Thu May 22, 2008 9:24 pm

He's always in the news talking about what he wants.

I can't think of any GM/President/Coach that does more postering through the media than Riley.
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Post#8 » by salqaddoumi » Thu May 22, 2008 9:25 pm

So this basically means that we're not going to extend Marion?
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Post#9 » by DBurks2818 » Thu May 22, 2008 9:26 pm

They all do it. It's just that when Riley speaks, it's bigger news.
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Post#10 » by vincent » Thu May 22, 2008 10:11 pm

pardon_my_interruption wrote:He's always in the news talking about what he wants.

I can't think of any GM/President/Coach that does more postering through the media than Riley.





Riley is just doing his job
Stir up interests in the pick


If a club offer a (Brand,MELO,Areans(fa) or shaq jk)
then Pat has to think about it...

But I feel B-easy is the best player in the draft
Rose is the best prospect
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Post#11 » by Lane1974 » Thu May 22, 2008 10:48 pm

oh and by the way, if he meant 2010
that's the year Wade, LBJ, and Bosh all expire when they set up their micro contracts...

we've always had the LBJ conspiracy theory on here off and on since then...

don't be surprised to see him not extend Matrix, AND not sign a max player next off season, roll the cap money over to 2010 offseason...

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Post#12 » by Heat11114 » Thu May 22, 2008 10:59 pm

I would bet this all goes down the drain. Basically throwing away 2 seasons (keep in mind to maximize cap space we have to avoid using the MLE). Just running some very quick numbers even not using the MLE with Wade, Banks 3 future #1's (including this year) and cap holds we're looking at 37 millionish in salaries. Again, assuming we signed absolutely no one long term. The chance at 1 max player. Throw away 2 seasons for the chance at Lebron or Bosh? Eh...
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Post#13 » by vincent » Thu May 22, 2008 11:00 pm

oh and by the way, if he meant 2010
that's the year Wade, LBJ, and Bosh all expire when they set up their micro contracts...


I like to keep my eye on Bosh who seem to a little piss
at the way Toranto season end .Question his team offense
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Post#14 » by Lane1974 » Thu May 22, 2008 11:01 pm

what if it's not a chance but already a wink wink?
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Post#15 » by Flash3 » Thu May 22, 2008 11:01 pm

Lane1974 wrote:oh and by the way, if he meant 2010
that's the year Wade, LBJ, and Bosh all expire when they set up their micro contracts...

we've always had the LBJ conspiracy theory on here off and on since then...

don't be surprised to see him not extend Matrix, AND not sign a max player next off season, roll the cap money over to 2010 offseason...

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Post#16 » by Heat11114 » Thu May 22, 2008 11:05 pm

Lane1974 wrote:what if it's not a chance but already a wink wink?


But that would be against league rules!!!
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Post#17 » by Miami's Finest » Thu May 22, 2008 11:53 pm

If we draft Beasley we should then trade Marion since he won't be extended for solutions at PG AND or C that expires before 2010 offseason.
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Post#18 » by Lane1974 » Thu May 22, 2008 11:55 pm

if we get LBJ or Bosh, there will be a lot of desk soaking going on
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Post#19 » by bisco614 » Fri May 23, 2008 12:25 am

pardon_my_interruption wrote:He's always in the news talking about what he wants.

I can't think of any GM/President/Coach that does more postering through the media than Riley.


I posted this in another thread, but what I really think is going on is he is trying to manipulate marion to opt out this summer. There is no need for him to go "public" to let other GM's know that the pick is available and that the team is looking to add a major free agent. I think he wants to make Marion feel like he's going to be the third wheel again (the reason he wanted Phoenix to trade him) so that he opts out this summer while he is still young. Riley is a master motivator, but in this case could be trying to motivate Marion to leave...
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Post#20 » by DayofMourning » Mon May 26, 2008 7:32 pm

Heat11114 wrote:I would bet this all goes down the drain. Basically throwing away 2 seasons (keep in mind to maximize cap space we have to avoid using the MLE). Just running some very quick numbers even not using the MLE with Wade, Banks 3 future #1's (including this year) and cap holds we're looking at 37 millionish in salaries. Again, assuming we signed absolutely no one long term. The chance at 1 max player. Throw away 2 seasons for the chance at Lebron or Bosh? Eh...


Yep. Why not. We're in a position right now where we can build a strong young team with great potential, groom them, build chemistry, then bring in a major star like James who would be the perfect teammate to them all. Bringing in James to add to Beasley, Wade, Wright, Cook, Banks, Haslem (?), another lotto pick (Thabeet?), etc. would be championship caliber. There would be no stopping that team on defense.

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