Could Mayo be our pick ? With article.

[CoolD]

Just reading up, that Mayo might be a target.

I rather have Beasley though, over Mayo.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft200 ... tch-080523

But Wade is having workouts with him

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" And he(Mayo) has looked awesome in his Chicago workouts with Tim Grover."

Maybe Wade has imput, and wants Mayo, considering they are working out with the same trainer.

But I rather get Beasley.

[jaseda510]

I'm not opposed to having Mayo as long as we trade down and get an extra piece.

I don't know what Minny might actually want to offer us that we would want. They obviously are not parting with Foye, maybe Brewer?

[BBallFreak]

I'm not opposed to having Mayo as long as we trade down and get an extra piece.

I don't know what Minny might actually want to offer us that we would want. They obviously are not parting with Foye, maybe Brewer?

Why would we want either Foye or Brewer? The talent drop off is much steeper than that, IMO...

[daniel3]

Why not Seattle? Blount & #2 for #4, Wilcox, #24?

[miami heat 28]

i have been saying this since day one if some of you remember my,
post.

i truly believe that oj mayo could become the best player in the draft.
and has superstar potential.

i would be thrilled if we picked him with the 2nd pick.
if we dont get an extra piece oh well...let's not gamble
take him at 2nd.

yes....

[shrink]

Why not Seattle? Blount & #2 for #4, Wilcox, #24?

Many older mocks have MIN taking Lopez at #3, but I think its highly unlikely that the Wolves would pass on Mayo (or, of course, Beasley) with the #3. MIN certainly has a hole at center, but they would probably address it through free agency this season, or next season when they can offer a max deal. Mayo's work-outs and interviews have boosted his value, and local media seems to be expecting Mayo. Wolves posters have Mayo-over-Lopez at about 4-to-1, and a Mayo-Foye back court looks pretty nice in tandem (a lesser version of a Wade-Mayo back court). MIN needs a guy with the unlikely potential to be a superstar to fill the Target Center (MIN was bottom five in attendance), and Lopez' upside might be just "solid." OJ Mayo signed with McHale's old roommate as his agent (though today's news says he dropped him), a guy that McHale has already signed two clients from in the past. Mayo walks in with a automatic nickname and marketing opportunities in Minnesota, home of the Mayo Clinic.

I'm not opposed to having Mayo as long as we trade down and get an extra piece.

I don't know what Minny might actually want to offer us that we would want. They obviously are not parting with Foye, maybe Brewer?

I think a deal would start with returning your first round pick, plus ...?, but I actually think finding a deal that would satisfy both McHale and MIA is unlikely.

Just to give you a little more info, it was rumored before the draft that McHale didn't like Beasley. He thought he saw too much Isiah Rider in him, and if he got the #2 pick, he would trade Beasley. Its ironic that the two guys that are rumored to be low on Beasley are sitting at 2 and 3. Everybody liked Derrick Rose though, but I see little chance the Bulls would pass up bringing the Chicago kid back home.

[the_bruce]

-= original quote snipped =-
Just to give you a little more info, it was rumored before the draft that McHale didn't like Beasley. He thought he saw too much Isiah Rider in him, and if he got the #2 pick, he would trade Beasley. Its ironic that the two guys that are rumored to be low on Beasley are sitting at 2 and 3.

Here's what worries me...and I doubt it would go down this way....

Miami decides not to putz around to extract Beasly value because they think MN will take mayo at 3 and just take Mayo at @2, Beasly falls to #3...McHale trades away beasly for a bag of magic beans?

As a wolves fan I was pretty comfortable with the wolves getting The Clinic, but in light of the McHale rumors about not liking Beasly this could end up very badly if MIA takes Mayo who I think McHale\FO was\is comfortable with picking.

I still think Beasly is the best player in the draft and I highly doubt MIA passes on him, but I guess it's possible. If in McHale's mind Beasly = Rider wolves fans are DOOMED if he falls to us.

[Flash3]

i have been saying this since day one if some of you remember my,
post.

i truly believe that oj mayo could become the best player in the draft.
and has superstar potential.

i would be thrilled if we picked him with the 2nd pick.
if we dont get an extra piece oh well...let's not gamble
take him at 2nd.

yes....

based on what, untapped potential? -- to many players in the draft over the years have had "untapped potential" to become the best this and the best that, who haven't proved much on any level, all be it the NCAA, even for 1 year, unlike a player in Beasley.

Mayo for all we know could be the next Sebastian Telfair (aka the best young PG for years to come, or so was said about him when he was taken in the top 15)

[Flash4thewin]

This is classic misinformation that is coming out of the Heat. Pat never says who he likes until he picks them. Thats why its typical Pat to "leak" that he loves Rose or say that we have "good to great" pf when its basically the opposite.

Now if Mayo drops to 6 there is a possibility of trading Marion and his max expiring contract for Curry + fillers and there lottery pick. That gives the knick the financial freedom to target Lebron or ironically Wade. There are reports that they will use the pick to get rid of a contract (curry/randolph)

For us we would lose any shot at cap space but would come out with arguably 2 of the best 3 players in this draft and a low post player who could demand a double team if motivated.

pg-Mayo/Banks
sg-Wade/Cook
sf-Wright/??? (or wright the backup)
pf-Beasley/UD
C-Curry/Blount

Pat does have a tendancy to trade for a player when there value is low and rebuild them.

[shrink]

This is classic misinformation that is coming out of the Heat. Pat never says who he likes until he picks them. Thats why its typical Pat to "leak" that he loves Rose or say that we have "good to great" pf when its basically the opposite.

Can you tell me what possible benefit Riley would have to spread misinformation with the number two pick? I just don't see it.

He won't influence CHI, they don't care who Riley likes, because they pick ahead of him. And after that, he picks in front of everyone else!

If you're, not the #6 picker, then sure, I can see spreading this type of misinformation. But I don't see the strategic advantage that Riley would have by expressing a dislike for Beasley, particularly since it might start their relationship off on the wrong foot. I don't believe the "leak" anyway, but I also don't see what he could gain by doing it either.

[shrink]

Now if Mayo drops to 6 there is a possibility of trading Marion and his max expiring contract for Curry + fillers and there lottery pick. .

BTW, Its early, but right now thinking Mayo goes sixth is extremely unlikely. Here's a clip from ESPN's Chad Ford that Heat fans might be interested in ...

Mick (SF): Chad - Outside of Beasley and Rose, who has the potential to be "special"? Mayo? Bayless?

Chad Ford: (2:18 PM ET ) Mayo. No question. He's suffered from such extreme expectations. I watched him for two days, spent a lot of time talking to him and I'm blown away. As far as basketball goes ... he really has it all. I think he'll be good enough to play point on the right team, but even if he doesn't, he really can score. As a person, I was impressed. I've heard all the bad stuff, but what I saw was a very intelligent, respectful and humble kid who is working his butt off. I think he's misunderstood. I know he's had a few issues in high school -- but honestly how many kids do you know that haven't had any issues in high school? I think he's a clear top 3 pick ... he might even crack into the No. 2 conversation with Miami.

[Flash4thewin]

Thats easy. They misinformation pat is putting out is to hype up Rose. The only logical reason for this would be he feels Beasley is the best player in the draft. If he felt the best player was Rose dont you think he would be raving about Beasley. Right now the bulls pick before us but they are know as incompetent for various front office/draft mistakes. The pressure is on them and now you have Pat a hall of fame figure who just won another ring not to long ago say Rose is the stud, Rose is the next Paul or Kidd etc. There is indirect influence/pressure to pick Rose. When have you ever heard Pat rave about a player ever? This is all misinformation to get the player he feels is the best by hyping up his competition. All "reports" had us taking Kaman in the lottery but then picked Wade. There is a reason why he is hyping Rose to help benefit the Heat. Or you think Pat lost it mentally and is now showing all his emotions on his sleeve and he's hiding nothing.

[shrink]

But even if Pat Riley had some big influence on other organizations despite finishing 30th last season, I still don't think this makes sense.

There are three options:

1. CHI thinks Rose is clearly better. They pick Rose. No Riley impact.

2. CHI thinks Beasley is clearly better. They pick Beasley. No Riley impact.

3. CHI is on the fence, and can go either way.

If they are on the fence, they see what Riley said and say, "We're going to take Rose -- you'll be stuck with Beasley, who you say you don't want. If you truly want to get rose, we'll trade him, and you'll need to pay more to get him." If he says "No," then he loses any credibility for affecting their decision, if he had any to begin with.

I think its clear that if CHI is truly on the fence, they will try to trade to get extra value - not just pick. I think this makes Riley's comments unwise.

[CoolD]

Thats easy. They misinformation pat is putting out is to hype up Rose. The only logical reason for this would be he feels Beasley is the best player in the draft. If he felt the best player was Rose dont you think he would be raving about Beasley. Right now the bulls pick before us but they are know as incompetent for various front office/draft mistakes. The pressure is on them and now you have Pat a hall of fame figure who just won another ring not to long ago say Rose is the stud, Rose is the next Paul or Kidd etc. There is indirect influence/pressure to pick Rose. When have you ever heard Pat rave about a player ever? This is all misinformation to get the player he feels is the best by hyping up his competition. All "reports" had us taking Kaman in the lottery but then picked Wade. There is a reason why he is hyping Rose to help benefit the Heat. Or you think Pat lost it mentally and is now showing all his emotions on his sleeve and he's hiding nothing.

As I understand it, he was really thinking of drafting Kaman, till his own staff convinced him otherwise. But he was actually thinking of getting Kaman but his staff and some of the players input convince him otherwise, that is how I understand it.

I think what Pat might be telling other teams. I have the option to draft Beasley, but if OJ Mayo is still on the board, we can work out a trade.

Riley might think of dumping Blount on a team, while trading Beasley.

And getting Mayo in return, for a better Center.

He is saying, he is willing to trade the pick, if you get me the right deal.


This will not have any affect on Bulls one way or another. We can only manipulate how the other teams below us respond. We don't have no leverage over the Bulls in any regard.

[CaliHeat]

I think it was Randy Pfund that convinced Riley to take Wade over Kaman.

As for all this misinformation, I think Flash4thewin hit it right on the head. Riley is hyping up Rose, Mayo and trading the pick so Michael Beasley can fall to him at #2.

I remember Riley loved Lamar Odom back in the day and almost traded PJ Brown for him on draft day. Now, Beasley doesn't have Odom's ability to fascilitate other players but he is more gifted offensively that Odom ever was. They are similar in the sense that both are skilled big men. Also I think Riley might see some James Worthy in Michael Beasley.

Riley is probably trying so hard not to leak any information about how bad he loves Michael Beasley.

Also, I saw an interview with Michael Beasley on the day of the draft lottery and he said that Miami had shown the most interest in him so far.

As for Mayo, Ive been very high on him all year long. I saw him play on multiple occasions. I think his athletic ability will hold him back from being a super star. I do think he can play PG in the mold of a Chauncey Billups, so by no means will he be a scrub. Ive just never seen him dunk on anyone or really take it strong to the basket and finish over anyone. He is a great shooter, good defender and plays with good basketball IQ. He did take questionable shots at times but during the end of the season, he improved on his shot selection. Overall, If we had the 3-4 pick, I would consider him but Beasley or Rose is our only option now.

[salqaddoumi]

I really like Mayo and I would take him if we ended up with the third pick but I can't see us passing up Beasley for him.

[GameTime_3]

No to mayo. Mayo is ricky davis v 2.o

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[CoolD]

I think it was Randy Pfund that convinced Riley to take Wade over Kaman.

As for all this misinformation, I think Flash4thewin hit it right on the head. Riley is hyping up Rose, Mayo and trading the pick so Michael Beasley can fall to him at #2.
I remember Riley loved Lamar Odom back in the day and almost traded PJ Brown for him on draft day. Now, Beasley doesn't have Odom's ability to fascilitate other players but he is more gifted offensively that Odom ever was. They are similar in the sense that both are skilled big men. Also I think Riley might see some James Worthy in Michael Beasley.

Riley is probably trying so hard not to leak any information about how bad he loves Michael Beasley.

Also, I saw an interview with Michael Beasley on the day of the draft lottery and he said that Miami had shown the most interest in him so far.

As for Mayo, Ive been very high on him all year long. I saw him play on multiple occasions. I think his athletic ability will hold him back from being a super star. I do think he can play PG in the mold of a Chauncey Billups, so by no means will he be a scrub. Ive just never seen him dunk on anyone or really take it strong to the basket and finish over anyone. He is a great shooter, good defender and plays with good basketball IQ. He did take questionable shots at times but during the end of the season, he improved on his shot selection. Overall, If we had the 3-4 pick, I would consider him but Beasley or Rose is our only option now.

So Riley knew before the actual lottery, that we were going to land number two, and the Bulls number one. Do you know what that would mean, that Riley is a psychic, and only hyped up Rose before the actual ping pong balls came into the equation, and he had a plan in strategy that he knew before the actual lottery, that we were getting the number two pick, when the odds were, we had the best shot at number one, but still Riley foresaw us landing the two before it happened, wow.

Know that the Bulls want Rose, by almost every single report. He hypes up OJ Mayo, so Beasley will fall in his lap.

But you don't take into account. Bulls want Rose. Not Beasley, Riley hyped up Rose before the actual lottery, that would mean Riley has psychic abilities. And he puts Mayo in the equation, because he likes Beasley so much, and would make the Bulls draft Rose, when they already are leaning towards Rose anyways.

[Heat3]

I hope Riley doesn't trade the pick. I want Beasley or Rose. We are guaranteed one of them. Don't screw it up Riles!

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

No to mayo. Mayo is ricky davis v 2.o

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Cept, of course, Mayo knows what defense is