Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal

[RiotPunch]

Unless we have enough room beneath it to use a significant portion of the TPMLE, going over the 2nd apron this year doesn't really matter. It means we can't sign buyout guys who were bought out of a contract bigger than 12m and we can't take back more than 110% in a trade.

It does also have future pick trading implications, has it been made clearer when that lovely addition comes into effect?

Yep, not until the 24-25 league year.

So after the draft...

Excellent.

[tedbrogen]

Unless we have enough room beneath it to use a significant portion of the TPMLE, going over the 2nd apron this year doesn't really matter. It means we can't sign buyout guys who were bought out of a contract bigger than 12m and we can't take back more than 110% in a trade.

It does also have future pick trading implications, has it been made clearer when that lovely addition comes into effect?

Yep, not until the 24-25 league year.

Ah, so the Bucks could trade 2031 1st after the 2024 draft concludes even if they are over the second apron this year, but if they are over the apron this season they would have to make the trade before 7/1/24. Is that correct?

[DingleJerry]

Fair. But I know which one is more valuable trying to win a title in the next 3-4 years.

I guess I don’t understand why we’re ignoring the trade restrictions with the picks? If we’re talking next 3-4 years, I’d rather have the 1st as trade ammunition than Bobby, as it opens the door for a 3 firsts + multiple swaps trade package next summer.

Yep. It is being described as having Bobby now or having Sexton now versus making a pick in 2029 when keeping that draft powder would allow them to have three firsts, two swaps, and tons of expiring salary (in the form of useful players) to trade in June of 2024. I view that flexibility as more likely to help a prime 29 year old Giannis than Sexton or Bobby.

Because it was a trade value discussion of Bobby in a vacuum. If a team is trying to win a title in the next few years is a Bobby or a pick in 6 years more valuable. And just in general, doing best to ignore and/or just normalize trade values Bobby is more valuable than a 6 year out lottery protected pick.

For the Bucks situation as you're agreeing to, the hoarding/projections issues its different. As I and others have been saying the whole time.

[fansinceforever]

I wish I was as confident as some of you in Giannis's committment to this team provided we have another early exit with largely the same rotation.

He re-upped after the exit in the bubble because they traded a bunch of firsts for Jrue. So trade three first and two swaps in June next year for someone he wants to play with if they flame out and he’ll sign the extension.

They just let him pick the new coach.

Hope you're right. Another early exit with the same roster makes us look pretty bad especially if said roster starts showing it's age. It's Giannis's prime years and he may think we're playing fast and loose with them.

[emunney]

It does also have future pick trading implications, has it been made clearer when that lovely addition comes into effect?

Yep, not until the 24-25 league year.

Ah, so the Bucks could trade 2031 1st after the 2024 draft concludes even if they are over the second apron this year, but if they are over the apron this season they would have to make the trade before 7/1/24. Is that correct?

I haven't read the CBA so there are details that are still unclear to me. Like, is your pick frozen if you exceed the 2nd apron at any point or is there a checkpoint date? I assume if multiple teams have their pick frozen and moved to the end of the same draft, the normal draft order rules would apply within that group, but haven't seen that enumerated.

[Matches Malone]

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[Daver]

I wish I was as confident as some of you in Giannis's committment to this team provided we have another early exit with largely the same rotation.

I wanna see giannis commitment to this team by improving the massive holes in his game instead of every year saying he wants to get better(ok you can talk the talk) how bout walking the walk only to see him suck at the FT line not have a inside game etc etc early exits suck but so does going 12-25 from the line

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Yep, not until the 24-25 league year.

Ah, so the Bucks could trade 2031 1st after the 2024 draft concludes even if they are over the second apron this year, but if they are over the apron this season they would have to make the trade before 7/1/24. Is that correct?

I haven't read the CBA so there are details that are still unclear to me. Like, is your pick frozen if you exceed the 2nd apron at any point or is there a checkpoint date? I assume if multiple teams have their pick frozen and moved to the end of the same draft, the normal draft order rules would apply within that group, but haven't seen that enumerated.

I heard silver proposed an additional off-season tournament to determine the pick slot

[Shaffty]

Unless we have enough room beneath it to use a significant portion of the TPMLE, going over the 2nd apron this year doesn't really matter. It means we can't sign buyout guys who were bought out of a contract bigger than 12m and we can't take back more than 110% in a trade.

actually the 110% starts at the first apron, so truly there is no reason to worry about it OUTSIDE of the 3 in 5 years making you have pick 30 rule

[Turk Nowitzki]

Must get to page 101 before MD can lock it.

[engelmartin]

2024 draft supposed to be any good? Do we have any picks?

[RiotPunch]

Nothing would be Rozier than hitting 101, that would be the Sex(ton)

[MoreTrife]

Must get to page 101 before MD can lock it.

Giannis's knee cleanup being discussed here or in Giannis thread? Discuss here for some post bloat.

[Shaffty]

2024 draft supposed to be any good? Do we have any picks?

no its REALLY bad

[bucksfansince88]

Which one of the SL guys not under contract would you guys invite to camp? Bass and Randall look like NBA players to me but both of the coaches Kids on the roster look like they could stick in the league also. excited to see Baker and Alan Griffin get some run