Griffin fired!- Doc Hired - Joerger likely on his way

[ShootingtheJ]

It will be important for Horst to empower the Bucks analytics department to help bring Doc closer to present day NBA.

[crkone]

It will be important for Horst to empower the Bucks analytics department to help bring Doc closer to present day NBA.

And Doc needs to listen to them and his assistants.

[randy84]

Doc's always been great with the mic. I just don't think he's a very good coach and his hire is being panned by the media and former players alike. Hearing JJ Redick all but pan the move was especially notable as a former player of his.

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But he's here now, so I hope he's the right guy for us.

That may be true, but he is still a step up from Grif. The numbers in JJ's follow up video are crazy considering Grif was a defensive coach.

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[sidney lanier]

Doc's Marquette number hangs from the rafters, which at least gives him hey-look-up credibility. It also makes me think about the places that banner has been, starting with the MECCA, which was called the Auditorium Arena before it was the MECCA. The fun stuff was held on the Auditorium side.

[CharityStripe34]

Doc's always been a charismatic speaker on camera. You have to hope he is the same way in the practice facility and can get the players to buy into a cohesive system.

[SirChurros]

Doc's always been great with the mic. I just don't think he's a very good coach and his hire is being panned by the media and former players alike. Hearing JJ Redick all but pan the move was especially notable as a former player of his.

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But he's here now, so I hope he's the right guy for us.

I love JJ, and I think some of his Doc criticism is probably fair, but he also owes a lot of money and longevity to Doc.

[humanrefutation]

I was listening to Raja Bell's podcast today and they claimed that Doc was actually offered the lead assistant job back in December and Griff blocked that move.

I don't know if that's true, but Griff clearly was looking over his shoulder.

[Ron Swanson]

I think there's about a 0% chance that Doc would have accepted an assistant coaching job at this stage of his career.

[humanrefutation]

I think there's about a 0% chance that Doc would have accepted an assistant coaching job at this stage of his career.

That's probably true, unless he thought it was clear that he'd end up in the big chair sooner or later and that being an assistant would just be a good ramp-it-up opportunity.

But I'm guessing you're right and Raja had his facts wrong.

[Profound23]

Not sure if it was mentioned, but I listened to Doc's original Bucks press conference.

He said he was so bored that paraphrasing "I started calling coaches up and saying stuff just to mess with them. I can't really say what I said, but that's how bored I was."

Just wondering if he was calling up the new assistants like Griff for different teams, telling them foolish plans to get them fired so he could take their spot.

[-Jragon-]

Dear Coach Rivers,

Thank you for being here with our team. I feel Infinitely more relaxed and confident with you at the helm. That being said, you and your staff have a puzzle to solve that even Bud could not figure out. I'll lay it out and give a few ideas even though this will likely never find you.

The puzzle: obviously teams build a wall for Giannis daring Giannis to go through for at least the 1st 3 quarters of the game. They use 2 to 4 people to create it and even hide defenders in weird spots anticipating the Eurostep. Teams know that as Giannis repeatedly crashes into these walls he is getting himself either hurt or in foul trouble, both of which help them later in the game or later in the series when Giannis has to play more cautious and timid. At the same time, other players will have light zone coverage and KM will probably light us up and likely the Bucks will have a nice lead at the end, but a foul troubled, hurt, timid Giannis won't be able to close us out.. plus we have all our fouls still because for the wall we just stand still. We can go over the limit and it doesn't matter because we'll send Giannis to the line and make him close the game from the FT line which will frustrate hum and his teammates/crowd. Khris was likely hot all game so he will then call for the ball and we'll blitz him with 2 guys like the NFL does a rookie quarterback and he will lose his dribble or throw a looping pass we might be able to deflect/intercept. So that's the puzzle.. beginning of the game they make Middleton score while beating Giannis and end of the game they make a neutered Giannis close them from the line.

Suggestions:
1. Obviously we have a new piece - Dame - use him to get the ball down and either score, draw fouls, or get the ball to the other stars in non-danger situations. KM should be near the 3 line or closer (if they blitz him there he is in shooting distance and can maybe draw a shooting foul or the person they double off of will have an easy bucket on a pass) - not several feet behind the line when he catches. Giannis needs to catch on a roll or in the post so no wall is available, he can slow down if needed (instead of battering ram) and some of the fouls on him will be and 1s.
2. Speaking of rolls, does anyone on your staff know how to run a pick and roll? If so, teach Giannis. He's still turning away from the ball handler when he goes by instead of turning in, facing his chest to the ball handler so he can see the action develop and get himself into the open spot in lane with proper spacing. He's turning outside, looking at the rest of the D first then trying to see where the ball handler is 2nd and he already might have been open or he ends up to close or missing the angle. Keep your damn eyes and chest on the dribbler Giannis and you'll see where the angles and openings are. That play should be all damn day. If this becomes bread and butter than everyone else will be open too and 2nd action plays should have space to work.

That's all for now. That's your puzzle, I hope you can get another useful piece or 2 but start creating your counter moves for what the other teams are going to do to us. Don't let them do it to us again, please. We're happy you're here! Good luck!

[-Jragon-]

Dear Doc, if you read this or someone can read it to you:

You aren't their friend. You can be friendly and build relationships but as a coach you have to establish some level of accountability. Start with the big 3... get them on board and tell them that look, I might grab you out of a game for a bit for some bad plays..don't make it a war, just nod your head and sit down.. normalize it so I can use this with the guys down the bench as the year goes on and keep them doing what we need done. Don't leave guys in struggling to lose their confidence; use it as an opportunity to get another guy ready. There are shoot-arounds available for guys to get their shot straightened out, or don't need to waste games letting 0-4 guys turn into 0-10. Use this when guys aren't hustling and using fundamentals. Then have chats with them so they know you're on their side still and they know what to work on.

Also, please get ANY guy that you even MIGHT need in a series some rotation minutes with starters down the stretch of the year so that they know how to use him and he can easily fit in. Miami ALWAYS has some rookie just seamlessly step in during a playoff series and fit right in and that's because they have a GOOD coach that thought ahead and had him ready in case of injury. If you end up not needing him, no harm no foul, but at least you were prepared. Remember that old saying... "Failing to prepare is preparing to fail" (Ben Franklin). That's what you did last year when you threw AJJ and Gallo in the series without them having rotation minutes post AS break. Have your head out of your a$# this year or put someone else in charge and give them authority of playoff preperation.

[chonestown]

Dear Doc, if you read this or someone can read it to you:

Oh FFS

[-Jragon-]

Dear Doc, if you read this or someone can read it to you:

Oh FFS

I meant while he's chilling getting his head shaved or something. Not illiteracy... I mean his name is Doc... could insinuate another PHD guy who knows

[chonestown]

Dear Doc, if you read this or someone can read it to you:

Oh FFS

I meant while he's chilling getting his head shaved or something. Not illiteracy... I mean his name is Doc... could insinuate another PHD guy who knows

Cool.

But it's the offseason! Glenn got open hours!

[Daver]

Dear Coach Rivers,

Thank you for being here with our team. I feel Infinitely more relaxed and confident with you at the helm. That being said, you and your staff have a puzzle to solve that even Bud could not figure out. I'll lay it out and give a few ideas even though this will likely never find you.

The puzzle: obviously teams build a wall for Giannis daring Giannis to go through for at least the 1st 3 quarters of the game. They use 2 to 4 people to create it and even hide defenders in weird spots anticipating the Eurostep. Teams know that as Giannis repeatedly crashes into these walls he is getting himself either hurt or in foul trouble, both of which help them later in the game or later in the series when Giannis has to play more cautious and timid. At the same time, other players will have light zone coverage and KM will probably light us up and likely the Bucks will have a nice lead at the end, but a foul troubled, hurt, timid Giannis won't be able to close us out.. plus we have all our fouls still because for the wall we just stand still. We can go over the limit and it doesn't matter because we'll send Giannis to the line and make him close the game from the FT line which will frustrate hum and his teammates/crowd. Khris was likely hot all game so he will then call for the ball and we'll blitz him with 2 guys like the NFL does a rookie quarterback and he will lose his dribble or throw a looping pass we might be able to deflect/intercept. So that's the puzzle.. beginning of the game they make Middleton score while beating Giannis and end of the game they make a neutered Giannis close them from the line.

Suggestions:
1. Obviously we have a new piece - Dame - use him to get the ball down and either score, draw fouls, or get the ball to the other stars in non-danger situations. KM should be near the 3 line or closer (if they blitz him there he is in shooting distance and can maybe draw a shooting foul or the person they double off of will have an easy bucket on a pass) - not several feet behind the line when he catches. Giannis needs to catch on a roll or in the post so no wall is available, he can slow down if needed (instead of battering ram) and some of the fouls on him will be and 1s.
2. Speaking of rolls, does anyone on your staff know how to run a pick and roll? If so, teach Giannis. He's still turning away from the ball handler when he goes by instead of turning in, facing his chest to the ball handler so he can see the action develop and get himself into the open spot in lane with proper spacing. He's turning outside, looking at the rest of the D first then trying to see where the ball handler is 2nd and he already might have been open or he ends up to close or missing the angle. Keep your damn eyes and chest on the dribbler Giannis and you'll see where the angles and openings are. That play should be all damn day. If this becomes bread and butter than everyone else will be open too and 2nd action plays should have space to work.

That's all for now. That's your puzzle, I hope you can get another useful piece or 2 but start creating your counter moves for what the other teams are going to do to us. Don't let them do it to us again, please. We're happy you're here! Good luck!

Very well written though im of the belief that maybe we should give Doc a full training camp and full off season to implement his O before we write this.He even mentioned a month ago thst dame needs to initiate the O n both kris n giannis bring the ball up to much.I think perdonally there will be some big time changes in the bucks O game plan this year

[-Jragon-]

Oh FFS

I meant while he's chilling getting his head shaved or something. Not illiteracy... I mean his name is Doc... could insinuate another PHD guy who knows

Cool.

But it's the offseason! Glenn got open hours!

I don't envision him using them on realgm weeding through our terrible trade ideas. I picture some assistants walking around with him so he can like dictate emails for them to type.

[MickeyDavis]

Hopefully Doc reads this and gets some top notch advice. FFS

[emunney]

Hopefully Doc reads this and gets some top notch advice. FFS

He'll have it dictated it to him by a backpedaling Richard Schiff.

[-Jragon-]

Hopefully Doc reads this and gets some top notch advice. FFS

It's a delicate balance between player's coach where you lose authority and authoritarian where you wear out your welcome and lose the whole lockerroom. Bud had the balance but not the adjustments. FFS