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Post#321 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Oct 12, 2024 5:08 pm

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The game speeds up? So? Players still miss when trying to score on Middleton, and Mids still hits buckets. He's one the the best and most efficient crunch time players of all time. You'd rather have speed than effectiveness? You hate winning?


Sig worthy.. basically we have Jordan (a GOAT in crunch time) and Rodman (great rebounder) combined into 1 humble man. Khris Middleton. I can't believe we ever lose a game in that case. 82 - 0 this year.


I take it you've never seen the stats? This isn't my opinion, it's actual numbers.

However, I think the real issue is, you don't know which player is Khris Middleton.
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Post#322 » by MiltownMadness » Sat Oct 12, 2024 5:11 pm

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MiltownMadness wrote:This AJ guy seems to be a basketball player



Could you be more vague?

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Post#323 » by -Jragon- » Sat Oct 12, 2024 6:08 pm

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The game speeds up? So? Players still miss when trying to score on Middleton, and Mids still hits buckets. He's one the the best and most efficient crunch time players of all time. You'd rather have speed than effectiveness? You hate winning?


Sig worthy.. basically we have Jordan (a GOAT in crunch time) and Rodman (great rebounder) combined into 1 humble man. Khris Middleton. I can't believe we ever lose a game in that case. 82 - 0 this year.


I take it you've never seen the stats? This isn't my opinion, it's actual numbers.

However, I think the real issue is, you don't know which player is Khris Middleton.


It's 2024 though. Outside of bucks realgm land there's no publication that has him ranked as even a top 50 player.. Hoopshype has him at like 96th. He has an elite mid range shooting skill but you can win at the end of a game with defense, hustle, drives and open catch and shoot 3s, so if we have the personnel to close games in those different ways, it shouldn't be out of the question to have him sit down certain games, even in the last 5 minutes.. especially if he's getting run off the court, turning it over or his shot is off at the moment. I think some overvalue our own players or overvalue the past.
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Post#324 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Oct 12, 2024 7:04 pm

-Jragon- wrote:I think some overvalue our own players or overvalue the past.

Or undervalue. To keep saying Middleton shouldn't be in at crunch time is agenda driven and odd.
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Post#325 » by MiltownMadness » Sat Oct 12, 2024 7:09 pm

Undervalue? Jragon legit just hates/loves the dude, he goes on random Khris tangents in every single thread he is in if we haven't noticed. It's weird.
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Post#326 » by -Jragon- » Sat Oct 12, 2024 7:20 pm

Situationally he should stay in and close.. I said that in several responses
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Post#327 » by FrieAaron » Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:13 pm

I agree, in the situation where we want to score more efficiently than the opposition he should close.
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Post#328 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:34 pm

MiltownMadness wrote:Undervalue? Jragon legit just hates/loves the dude, he goes on random Khris tangents in every single thread he is in if we haven't noticed. It's weird.

Yeah, this is a game thread and he didn't play but here we are.
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Post#329 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Oct 12, 2024 9:58 pm

FrieAaron wrote:I agree, in the situation where we want to score more efficiently than the opposition he should close.


Agree. If we're tanking, then he should definitely sit.
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Post#330 » by nagawicka » Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:16 am

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MiltownMadness wrote:Undervalue? Jragon legit just hates/loves the dude, he goes on random Khris tangents in every single thread he is in if we haven't noticed. It's weird.

Yeah, this is a game thread and he didn't play but here we are.

What we can say is, he's progressing. Some live action, 3 on 3, we're taking it day by day, checking out the narrative trajectory
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Post#331 » by soxperry » Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:18 pm

FrieAaron wrote:I agree, in the situation where we want to score more efficiently than the opposition he should close.


Youre not going to get the credit u deserve for that one, but i noticed :lol:
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Post#332 » by nagawicka » Sun Oct 13, 2024 3:45 pm

chonestown wrote:Like AJ was supposed to be our long range marksman off the bench, but it's been a struggle so far this year.

So true, every game he's played this season's he's been a disaster.
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Post#333 » by -Jragon- » Sun Oct 13, 2024 4:01 pm

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FrieAaron wrote:I agree, in the situation where we want to score more efficiently than the opposition he should close.


Youre not going to get the credit u deserve for that one, but i noticed :lol:


Nah, I noticed. It was solid
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Re: Preseason Game 2: Lakers at Bucks - 10/10/24 - 7:00 - BSWI/NBATV 

Post#334 » by nagawicka » Sun Oct 13, 2024 9:41 pm

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I suggested Bobby for Gabe Vincent & a pick. Had a good audition tonight. There's your pg/sg.


"I credit my hard work over the summer," Portis said flatly. "A whole lot of naysayers talking crazy on my name. Every time I get on social media, every time I do something it's always somebody's saying something about me.


https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2024/10/10/milwaukee-bucks-los-angeles-lakers-takeaways-giannis-antetokounmpo-preseason-debut/75564113007/

Portis made his first three shots before missing, and then promptly drained four more to go 7 for 8 from the field overall. He also went 4 for 4 from behind the three-point line and assisted on a basket. The performance followed up a 16-point night in Detroit where he made 4 of 5 three-pointers.


So what. This kind of shows me he doesn't get it, because someone like me was one of his biggest supporters from the draft to his signing to his 1st couple yrs here, & a way to fix this is supposedly get mad at others, then score the ball, instead of recover his perimeter d, rebounding to what it was, not get kicked out of games/t'ed, & keep his level in the playoffs (this is preseason). It's hard to trust him at this point, & he's not going to change that now, so I support trading him. It's good if this is (re)raising his value.


It shows Portis gets it. What part about "A whole lot of naysayers talking crazy on my name" do you not get. They're not gonna trade him. Who could serve better as a lightning rod to trigger every frustrated opponent into directing their frustration at Bobby instead of Giannis? No one. They have no one else to provide the component Portis delivers and whether you like how he's deployed or not doesn't factor in.
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Post#335 » by Bernman » Sun Oct 13, 2024 10:32 pm

nagawicka wrote:It shows Portis gets it. What part about "A whole lot of naysayers talking crazy on my name" do you not get. They're not gonna trade him. Who could serve better as a lightning rod to trigger every frustrated opponent into directing their frustration at Bobby instead of Giannis? No one. They have no one else to provide the component Portis delivers and whether you like how he's deployed or not doesn't factor in.


Interesting, considering he was in trade proposals by the Bucks last deadline, which is one of the things that irked him.

Those are the Bucks who acquired & re-signed him. I was one of his biggest supporters from the draft all the way thru a couple yrs ago. If he lost support from us, provided he had perspective, he'd look in the mirror his perimeter d & rebounding declined, + he proved unreliable on o or in general in the playoffs.

Last year he got tilted in a game the Bucks really needed anyone to step up cuz they were w/out multiple stars. It's not a positive.
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Post#336 » by Packbuckman » Sun Oct 13, 2024 10:50 pm

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nagawicka wrote:It shows Portis gets it. What part about "A whole lot of naysayers talking crazy on my name" do you not get. They're not gonna trade him. Who could serve better as a lightning rod to trigger every frustrated opponent into directing their frustration at Bobby instead of Giannis? No one. They have no one else to provide the component Portis delivers and whether you like how he's deployed or not doesn't factor in.


Interesting, considering he was in trade proposals by the Bucks last deadline, which is one of the things that irked him.

Those are the Bucks who acquired & re-signed him. I was one of his biggest supporters from the draft all the way thru a couple yrs ago. If he lost support from us, provided he had perspective, he'd look in the mirror his perimeter d & rebounding declined, + he proved unreliable on o or in general in the playoffs.

Last year he got tilted in a game the Bucks really needed anyone to step up cuz they were w/out multiple stars. It's not a positive.

He is a few months younger than Giannis so in his prime if he can be a little more consistent and play D rebound he can really help this team as Lopez ages perfect compliment to Giannis. His shooting just seems to get better every year especially from 3.
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Post#337 » by ShootingtheJ » Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:01 am

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nagawicka wrote:It shows Portis gets it. What part about "A whole lot of naysayers talking crazy on my name" do you not get. They're not gonna trade him. Who could serve better as a lightning rod to trigger every frustrated opponent into directing their frustration at Bobby instead of Giannis? No one. They have no one else to provide the component Portis delivers and whether you like how he's deployed or not doesn't factor in.


Interesting, considering he was in trade proposals by the Bucks last deadline, which is one of the things that irked him.

Those are the Bucks who acquired & re-signed him. I was one of his biggest supporters from the draft all the way thru a couple yrs ago. If he lost support from us, provided he had perspective, he'd look in the mirror his perimeter d & rebounding declined, + he proved unreliable on o or in general in the playoffs.

Last year he got tilted in a game the Bucks really needed anyone to step up cuz they were w/out multiple stars. It's not a positive.



He also just had a playoff series where he averaged 20/12, lead the team in +/-, and the team was 20 points better in the series defensively when he played center instead of Lopez.

Since then he's speed up his 3 ball to help him become even more of an asset come playoff time. I'm far more worried about Lopez than Portis.

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