ESPN's Stein Doesn't Believe Redd Will Be Traded

[unklchuk]

If the Bucks follow their common Do The Least Possible To Lessen The Criticism approach, they'll just trade Gadz for some middling thing.

Along with BayrdBandit, I'll miss Larry Harris. When he took over, it was day (vs night) having someone who could communicate with the public with energy, action and conviction. No small accomplishment.

The Presidency has shown us how important it is to have a communicator hold the office. No, it certainly doesn't replace governance. But in today's world, both are essentials.

[75totheMACCfund]

If you think about it, LH is right. Why should Redd be traded? It's not fault that as a scorer and shooter, Redd is surrounded with other pure scorers (who don't do much else). It's Harris's job to complement players with other players, not bring in players who all have the same talent.

A core of Redd/Bogut/Yi is pretty good scoring wise, but we need defenders and a passing PG to make them more effective. Putting in a soft, jump shooting Bobby Simmons, a chucking PG in Mo Williams, and another scoring guard in Charlie Bell wasn't necessarily the way to go about it.

But Simmons is a big body wing player. He'd be a great sixth man, unfortunately he's making starter money. In talking with FAM earlier today, he reminded me of Bobby's high FG percentage in the preseason and had his season high in the season opener. BuckSkinFan has said he has no pain in his feet, so it's a matter of him finding his rhythm and then he will be effective once again.

I've never been a fan of Mo Williams as our starting point guard. His propensity to shoot first and his lack of size do not make him an ideal fit next to redd, who demands a defensive-minded guard with great PG skills (great pg skills rules out Bell). Moreover, he does not seem to have a high bball IQ IMO.

Charlie Bell, in disagreement with you, is not another scoring guard. What got LH's attention and Bell's plane ticket to Milwaukee from Italy was his work ethic, defensive mindedness, and ability to knock down the open three. You have to believe that his recent shooting slump is hopefully over (although a one game return to old bell is not great enough evidence to suggest this). Redd is surrounded by talent, it's just the unfortunate circumstances of last season's injury and the constant shifting of player personnel has not allowed any gelling of this team.

My official stance, is to keep Yi and Bogut. I believe they are great building blocks. Trade CV for a veteran banger with the ability to hit the open 15 footer ala Antonio McDyess or trade Mo and CV for a veteran point guard who has great PG skills (andre miller, i know many of you dislike him but i think he'd be a great fit here or jason kidd which i know isn't going to happen). The bucks have a great scorer in Redd, a dynamic and fluid PF in Yi, and a big bodied dare i say defensive minded center in Bogut who has potential (third season, it should be skill by now, I know) to be a steady offensive contributor. Please allow me to refute this statement when CV has a good game (once every seven) and MO has 13 assists on 7-10 shooting (tomorrow night)

[unklchuk]

Simmons. The signs are tending up. His D was useful against Charlotte. From the J-S story:

"During the Bucks' 12-0 run, Charlotte missed four shots and turned the ball over three times, all by forward Gerald Wallace, who led the Bobcats with 25 points."

Simmons gets credit for some of that. Wallace tried to bull through Simmons to get to the basket, and bounced off as if he had hit a brick wall. I think that changed Wallace's confidence. Then Wallace tried to drive around Simmons (with Simmons moving pretty well, with his active hands) and bounced the ball off his foot for a turnover.

Simmons feet may be only average, but his hands are quick and active. He both disrupts and gets turnovers with them. I hope he's finally getting into the flow.

As an aside, he has this super-stoic look - kind of like a troll in a Terry Pratchett novel. Penetrating eyes that look like they could blister paint. But I think there's more going on inside that head, more of a competitor, than shows.

He makes my Expect Better Things From list (which is the kind of thing I say after a win).

[EastSideBucksFan]

Simmons. The signs are tending up. His D was useful against Charlotte. From the J-S story:

"During the Bucks' 12-0 run, Charlotte missed four shots and turned the ball over three times, all by forward Gerald Wallace, who led the Bobcats with 25 points."

Simmons gets credit for some of that. Wallace tried to bull through Simmons to get to the basket, and bounced off as if he had hit a brick wall. I think that changed Wallace's confidence. Then Wallace tried to drive around Simmons (with Simmons moving pretty well, with his active hands) and bounced the ball off his foot for a turnover.

Simmons feet may be only average, but his hands are quick and active. He both disrupts and gets turnovers with them. I hope he's finally getting into the flow.

As an aside, he has this super-stoic look - kind of like a troll in a Terry Pratchett novel. Penetrating eyes that look like they could blister paint. But I think there's more going on inside that head, more of a competitor, than shows.

He makes my Expect Better Things From list (which is the kind of thing I say after a win).

To add to that sentiment I think it should be noted that Bobby Simmons had 8 rebounds in that game. He was putting himself in a position to get the rebound by staying in the "pop up zone" (Jonny Mac classic) and grabbing mans rebounds and boxing out.

I'm not sure how many were offensive but as a team we did better on the offensive glass. If we can get 6-8 rebounds from Bobby that will be huge for us.

[bango_the_buck]

You won't get a superstar fro Redd because Redd is not a superstar.....

Yeah, that's why I don't see it happening...

[Bucks_Revenge]

man its been killing me that I couldn't post......


all i have to say is that Redd will and should be traded.....and by steins comments it seems Kohl may be the bigger problem then the coach and GM.

[THE DINJ]

You won't get a superstar fro Redd because Redd is not a superstar.....

Uh huh, cuz AI and Garnett were traded for superstars.

[xTitan]

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Uh huh, cuz AI and Garnett were traded for superstars.

Neither Philly or Minne would have taken Redd and his bad contract for either of those guys.

[THE DINJ]

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Neither Philly or Minne would have taken Redd and his bad contract for either of those guys.

They took even worse for their superstars.

[okanoho]

This doesn't mean anything really,
But I emailed harris complaining about redd and he said that redd is going no where and he really likes the core of mo williams, michael redd, and Yi.

He didn't really mention CV and Bobby though

because no team wants him?
omg
so bad

[Newz]

A rebuilding team is not going to deal for Redd...

A team that feels that they can make a jump from a first round team to a second round team, second round to a third round team, conf. finals to a finals team... Those are the types of teams who are going to trade for him to try to make a step towards a championship.

There is no reason to deal a extremely talented young wing for Redd because of his age. If you are rebuilding then what is the sense of dealing for a guy who will be in the last year of his prime or past it when your other players are developed?

[Simulack]

Woelfel was on the radio last night and said CV's value was "soaring" and that one Western Conference executive said he thinks certain teams would be willing to give up a starter (presumably a SF) for him in a trade.

Given that he said in his opinion a trade was 99.9% likely, he was obviously making a point by immediately discussing CV's trade value.

Most likely the move is going to be an attempt to get somebody who can help now for CV. Redd and Bogut are very unlikely to be traded IMO.

Woelfel said he was going to make a list of available players on his blog soon but I don't see it yet.

[El Duderino]

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They took even worse for their superstars.

I doubt you'd find a GM in the game who would take max contract Redd over Al Jefferson/Gomes and a couple of first rounders.

[Kerb Hohl]

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I doubt you'd find a GM in the game who would take max contract Redd over Al Jefferson/Gomes and a couple of first rounders.

Couldn't agree with you more. Problem is, a handful of supporters in here and many of the people that go to the games would rather watch a "superstar" fill it up and lead this team to a ceiling of 30-45 wins and a first round sweep if applicable instead of playing for the possibility of a powerhouse team in the near future.

[MilBucksBackOnTop06]

This doesn't mean anything really,
But I emailed harris complaining about redd and he said that redd is going no where and he really likes the core of mo williams, michael redd, and Yi.

He didn't really mention CV and Bobby though

That is why you will have to can Larry Harris' ass...

Simply clueless. Those are the players he needs to move! And the one player he needs to keep he did not mention...Bogut.

Doug Collins 'If' he comes in would have sense enough to go get a guy like Ron Artest if given the reins by Kohl to do so.

You need a complete persnality shift on this team from jump shooting softies to hard competitors and tough minded winners!