Iguodala

SouthJersey · Post #21 » by **SouthJersey** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:13 pm

What incentive does philly get for trading AI for that. Iguodala is a stat stuffer and plays reall good D. If the Bucks get AI, they'll either make the playoffs or just miss.... so that picks wont be much. CV doesnt fit what Philly needs, they need a PF, not a tweener. He's a good bench player, but Philly, in my opinion, would need more back.

europa · Post #22 » by **europa** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:17 pm

SouthJersey wrote:What incentive does philly get for trading AI for that. Iguodala is a stat stuffer and plays reall good D. If the Bucks get AI, they'll either make the playoffs or just miss.... so that picks wont be much. CV doesnt fit what Philly needs, they need a PF, not a tweener. He's a good bench player, but Philly, in my opinion, would need more back.

That's what I thought. As I said in my initial post I didn't think the Sixers would go for it. My hope was the incentive of the first-round pick might sway them.

But like I said, I highly doubt the Bucks are going to trade Yi. They turned down a trade for Marion to draft him; I don't see them trading Yi anytime soon.

Max Green · Post #23 » by **Max Green** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:30 am

europa wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Don't see the Bucks trading Yi. I think he's as close to untouchable as this team has - even more than Redd or Bogut.

What about my offer of Villanueva/2008 first (Top 5 protected) for Iggy? Think the Sixers might bite on that?

I could only dream of the 76's biting. That would instantly make us the #3 team in the East.

midranger · Post #24 » by **midranger** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:42 am

I gotta guess that the 76ers are looking to keep Iguodala. Their team doesn't make much sense otherwise.

If for some reason they wanted to trade Iggy for Yi, I'd add Voskuhl's expiring for Reggie Evans's long deal as an added incentive. They seem to be angling for cap space this summer, though Iggy is pretty much the best player available.

All that said, he'd be a perfect player for this team at the moment.

jerrod · Post #25 » by **jerrod** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:45 am

i'm stunned, i think most of you guys are drastically underrating what it would take to get him now, even with the upcoming extension

Post #26 » by **paulpressey25** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:59 am

I agree....they aren't going to trade the guy.

Right now they are primed to keep Iggy, Dalembert and Andre Miller and add to that core a top lotto pick and maybe be able to sign any of the guys below as a FA or RFA now that they have all that cap money ready via the Korver trade:

Deng, Marion, Brand, Calderon, Jamison, Baron Davis, etc.......

They'll overpay and offer a 5-year/$70-90mm deal to one of those guys and get them.

It's plausible Marion and say an OJ Mayo are on the Sixers next year to go with their current core and Iggy.

YiZ$$$ · Post #27 » by **YiZ$$$** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:19 pm

I think an Iguodala for Redd trade would be beneficial for both sides.

trwi7 · Post #28 » by **trwi7** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:23 pm

YiZ$$$ wrote:I think an Iguodala for Redd trade would be beneficial for both sides.

How? Iggy is better than Redd and won't get as big of a contract.

Post #29 » by **ReasonablySober** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:24 pm

europa wrote:I think it's quite interesting that the Sixers dealt Iverson in large part because they wanted to build around Iguodala and now they may have to move on to Plan B.

Tanking and getting a high pick was more the reason for the Iverson deal.

europa · Post #30 » by **europa** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:27 pm

DrugBust wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Tanking and getting a high pick was more the reason for the Iverson deal.

And the GM who made that trade got fired.

Just a little something to keep in mind.

As I posted in another thread, an ESPN story talked about how plenty of GMs have noted the poor return the Sixers got for Iverson and how that may impact any decision to move top players this season.

worthlessBucks · Post #31 » by **worthlessBucks** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:34 pm

I'd say the return for the Sixers would be viewed in a better light if the Sixers didn't do so much winning at the end of last season. The addition of Miller really had a negative impact on the tanking efforts, they went from picking around us at 6 to 12th in a little over a month. Consequently, they lost out on a player they coveted in Yi and went with the highest upside guy they could find at 12 in Thaddeus Young. Their issue is that they've been drafting the same player over and over again, athletic wings in back to back first round picks. Rodney Carney has been very uninspiring for them, but it probably has to do with the logjam of young guys they have at the wing.

Newz · Post #32 » by **Newz** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:40 pm

Why would a rebuilding team trade their best young player?

Igudala is off limits unless you are offering a better young player or a superstar type player... The Bucks don't have either of those things.

YiZ$$$ · Post #33 » by **YiZ$$$** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:43 pm

trwi7 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

How? Iggy is better than Redd and won't get as big of a contract.

Iggy = Good on offense, good on defense 6'6" GF
Redd = Great on offense, bad on defense 6'6" GF

So talent wise, position wise, and size wise it is a wash. I dunno about money and contract wise.

europa · Post #34 » by **europa** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:45 pm

LukePliska wrote:Why would a rebuilding team trade their best young player?

The only way I can see it is if he keeps griping about his teammates and/or his play gets sluggish. Otherwise, I agree. I can't see the Sixers trading him given how they dealt Iverson so they could build their team around him.

xTitan · Post #35 » by **xTitan** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:13 pm

europa wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

The only way I can see it is if he keeps griping about his teammates and/or his play gets sluggish. Otherwise, I agree. I can't see the Sixers trading him given how they dealt Iverson so they could build their team around him.

What if he made up his mind that he just wasn't going to sign....would they have a choice?

europa · Post #36 » by **europa** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:37 pm

xTitan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

What if he made up his mind that he just wasn't going to sign....would they have a choice?

That's another scenario and one that ties in with my thread about Elton Brand recently. If he made it clear he didn't want to stay in Philly, they'd have to move him and get something of value for him. I'm not sure the situation has reached that point, though.