ESPN's Stein: No Redd Trade Until Offseason At Earliest

[LUKE23]

I'm not that high on Dorrell Wright, but I consider that deal if the 2009 pick is unprotected.

[DH34Phan]

I'm not that high on Dorrell Wright, but I consider that deal if the 2009 pick is unprotected.

I think that deal makes sense for both teams. Miami gets a legit 2nd option next to Dwayne Wade, while we get a young SF while freeing up around 15 million dollars in capspace.

[Newz]

My 1st order of business would be to trade Redd at the deadline.

Bucks trade:

Michael Redd
Dan Gadzuric
Royal Ivey

Heat trade:

Dorell Wright
Jason Williams
Ricky Davis
Alonzo Mourning
2009 1st round pick

This trade would free up an enormous amount of cap room, as next year Dorell Wright would only be on the books.

Our team would look like this after the deadline:

PG: Mo/Jason Williams
SG: Bell/Ricky Davis
SF: Wright/ Bobby/ Desmond
PF: Yi/ CV
C: Bogut/ Ruffin/ Alonzo

Going forward, that would be a young core of Mo/Wright/Yi/Bogut with a whole lot of caproom.

I would then trade CV and Bobby to Minnesota for Marko Jaric and Greg Buckner and a 2nd rounder.

After the season, after we left Jason Williams, Ricky Davis, Michael Ruffin, Jake Voskuhl and Alonzo expire, our team, with a lot of capspace, and picks to work with, would look like this:

PG: Mo Williams/ Marko Jaric/ Ramon Sessions
SG: Charlie Bell/ Greg Buckner/ David Noel
SF: Dorell Wright/ Desmond Mason/ David Noel
PF: Yi
C: Andrew Bogut

There are still holes, but with the capspace we freed up, I think it would be worth it.

So we are trading Redd for pretty much nothing?

We get cap space to sign someone who won't be nearly as good as Redd and we get a draft pick in 2009 when the Heat will be a playoff team because they added Redd and their 2008 lottery pick to their roster?

That seems like an awful idea to me, personally.

I am to the point where if we trade Redd I could deal with it... I honestly don't really care if we deal him anymore... But let's at least get SOMETHING for him rather than just giving him away.

[ExTasDeeMan]

Who the hell is this Noel character?

[DH34Phan]

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So we are trading Redd for pretty much nothing?

We get cap space to sign someone who won't be nearly as good as Redd and we get a draft pick in 2009 when the Heat will be a playoff team because they added Redd and their 2008 lottery pick to their roster?

That seems like an awful idea to me, personally.

I am to the point where if we trade Redd I could deal with it... I honestly don't really care if we deal him anymore... But let's at least get SOMETHING for him rather than just giving him away.

Well, if Gadz is going to be going with Redd, what we get in return is going to be less.

If we can get a young SF with promise and a 1st rounder while shedding Redd and Gadz' salaries. I would be all for it. The Ray Allen trade to Boston was very similar.

[Newz]

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Well, if Gadz is going to be going with Redd, what we get in return is going to be less.

If we can get a young SF with promise and a 1st rounder while shedding Redd and Gadz' salaries. I would be all for it. Ray Allen was traded straight up for Jeff Green.

Sadly the Bucks aren't going to get a player as good as Jeff Green... We'll get Dorrell Wright and a 15-20 pick in a year and a half...

[DH34Phan]

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Sadly the Bucks aren't going to get a player as good as Jeff Green... We'll get Dorrell Wright and a 15-20 pick in a year and a half...

Dorrell Wright is 9 months older than Green, and is putting up equal numbers.

Not saying Wright will be a stud, but he could definitely turn into a very solid SF in the future, and with the cap space we get by trading Michael and Gadz, I think it would be worth it.

[MilBucksBackOnTop06]

I am gonna go on Jsonline where I have the freedom to rant and spell this Zach Randolph trade out for you people who donot know how b-ball works with what we have...

All you Randolph detractors are pissing me off...and I can't say what I want...here.

What you want is a guy who is always a good pct shooter and not always a volume shooter although that is good too. He is a scorer!

That helps all the other jump shooters we have and gives them open looks. Redd needs open looks from 3 and so does Mo and Yi!

Also Bogut is extremly helped the most from a guy like Boozer, Nene, or Randolph. He allows Bogut to get more interior assists and draw some attention from him because now Bogut will be double teamed.

With other players who cannot get in the paint nor to the line at will this opens it up for them and brings some fear factor into play when playing the Bucks.

All this other non essential off the court gibberish is nonsense. Fans come if you win!

A lineup like this is unbeatable:

SF Desmond Mason? (Balkman, Chandler?)
PF Zach Randolph
C Andrew Bogut
PG Mo Williams
SG Michael Redd
F Yi Jianlian
G Charlie Bell
F Renaldo Balkman
G Royal Ivey
PF Michael Ruffin
C Jake Voskuhl
G David Noel

Now that is a playoff team with the addition of one guy and subtraction of some dead weight excess. * If you keep Redd then Randolph if availible would have been an excellent basketball option.
Off the court is none of my business...nor your's! And is even out of the control of Senator Kohl regarding anyone he hires!

[beyond_the_arc]

I am gonna go on Jsonline where I have the freedom to rant and spell this Zach Randolph trade out

Spell out (Please Use More Appropriate Word) instead. Then read it over and over.

[MajorDad]

I have to wonder how many of Kohl's deals/actions have also been politically motivated? he doesn't sell the team and ensures the team stays in milwaukee. the fans are happy and vote for him. he spends a bunch of money on mediocre free agents to keep the fans happy so they vote for him. he brings back popular players regardless of their ability (mason) because the community loves mason and will vote for kohl. he keeps redd because the fans like him. he goes to China as if he's the American Ambassador to get Yi to play when he could have just done a teleconference fro m his office. All of kohl's moves seem to be more oriented to keeping the fans happy and gaining their vote rather than having any intelligence about how to build a championship team. the bucks were not constructed to win a championship. they were contructed to keep the fans happy. Even the Big three and their style of play was built to keep the fans happy rather than to win a championship.

I'm begining to believe that Kohl is afraid to rip the team apart and start from scratch to build the team the right way out of fear that the fans will become unhappy and vote democrat in mass. I'm begining to believe the bucks would be better off if Kohl did not seek re-election or if their owner was not a politician trying to use his team to win votes.

As Rocky would say .... we need a change. and that change has to come at the top.

[THE DINJ]

Nothing would help Kohl politically as far as the Bucks are concerned more than winning.

[little_cleo]

I believe Kohl is as good as an owner any NBA team coud have. Don't get me wrong he's not perfect but also you can't solely blame him for not winning a Championship(s).

Does he have his "inner circle" sure...whats wrong with that...its a business -it's not easy. Kohl has gone through with trades/free agency that show that he's willing for improvement.

Willing to trade for players like Magloire when it cost him a fan favorite in Mason and a draft pick-hoping it would advance the team...I'm sure many of you too thought that trade would have workout a lot better than it did, like I did, but thats the risk(s).

This team is getting close to becoming a quality team, its not a matter of Kohl being affraid of moving a "fan favorite" -he's done that with Allen, Robinson, Cassell, Mason, Thomas etc... (oh Blake too I almost forgot the city's favorite last year). There are a lot of good trades out there...two to three in my opinion...so I wouldn't be too worried about Kohl not being willing to make a big trade or two. I think he will realize this team has too much promise to give up on this year.

[jokeboy86]

Nobody is saying Kohl doesn't make the effort to improve the team, but the problem is what he's been doing hasn't worked. If he were a good owner, he wouldn't be afraid to address the arena issue. If he is not going to sell the team like he says, then he should, no he HAS to address the arena situation. Kohl acts as if the Bradley Center group didn't make that bold statement during the last lease. It is hard enough for winning sports teams to get new arenas or renovations, but for losing teams it is damn near impossible. Why nobody in the local media thinks this is the most important issue for the Bucks is beyond me?

[MilBucksBackOnTop06]

Anyone who says a team made a mistake by NOT acquiring Zach Randolph is just simply not worth my time. I know we would have lost two bad contracts in the deal, but we also acquire the worst chemistry player in the entire league, with three more years AFTER this year on the books.

Then why are you typing this. Anyone who says Randolph couldnt help is a waste of my time! They are delusional.

On a purely basketball standpoint it is an EXCELLENT DEAL for what this Bucks team needs!

I understand why the leery Bucks' and our teams brass wouldn't do it. And I have to start reevaluating this teams overall committment and whether I will continue as a Bucks fan or not...

Zach finishes around the basket, and take you outside of 10-15 feet, he rebounds on offensive and defensive glass, he has some toughness and meaness to his game, and he can command a double team and get to the free throw as well as block shots.

Some say he does not pass. SO WHAT!? He is not here to pass! He is here to assist and take pressure off of Bogut in the low post game and
to be another option in crunch time.

Some say his basketball IQ is limited. So what! He is not alone in that, trust me. The Bucks do not nor should they run anything complicated anyways.

You get the ball down low and work the high low game! How hard is that!?

Some say he has not won in Portland. What!? AND NO ONE HAS WON ON OUR TEAM EITHER! Some say, 'well he had a DUI...and this, and that.

Well, so what. So have many others. That is not your concern. Can he win games with what we have! And... what's your point?

None of have to invite him over to your house. All I want is to get winners here individually who can meet team challenges and expectations as a whole collectively.

Rebuilding projects in Portland and New York aside, this young man can play and compete!!! That is the bottom line. For what we are giving who the hell did you expect to get!?

You poll anyone and ask them would they fear a trio of Bogut/Redd/Zach and I guarantee you they would say, yes.

Much less a bench or supporting cast of Mo/Yi/Mason/ or Bell...

[MilBucksBackOnTop06]

Ray ray jones:

we say Kohl won't make a trade based on his recent history of turning down potential trades and standing pat. The Bucks could have acquired randolph from Portland, but kohl said no. the bucks could have traded for boozer, but kohl said no. the Bucks could have traded for marion, but kohl said no. the Bucks could have acquired artest, but kohl said no. the Bucks could have acquired GS's Richardson, but kohl said no. the bucks could have traded Yi to several teams on draft night, but kohl said no.

looking at all the trades kohl has said no to in recent years makes one believe Kohl is a man of no action. I still can't believe he allowed harris to trade TJ for CV. kohl must have really disliked TJ.

When is Kohl up for re-election? perhaps he'l l want to make a trade to get some free headlines.

MajorDad you are right Kohl could have, and we are blaming Harris.

That is why this team is a...from top to bottom and I am about to just throw upmy hands and give up with it.

Every guy you mentioned could have helped this team get over the hump as well as a experienced coach that would have taken a little extra effort for Kohl to do...

But he said no...

The only guy who can say