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Kohl's Pink Tank: What Will It Take For You To Climb Aboard

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Post#21 » by MajorDad » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:57 pm

the problem with the way the bucks tank, is that they don't even know how to tank correctly. they should have started tanking from day 1 like the twolves did. they should have traded redd and mo and Cv at the begining of the year for picks or young talent to ensure we did not win. rather tha n resigning mason, they should have sessions on the team from day 1.

or we should have traded for Rickey Davis. if ever you want your team to tank, have ricky davis on your team.

I would have to believe that MO's, CV and redd's trade value has all gone down since the start of the year. and now wit h our 19 wins, it's going to be very hrd to sneek into the top 3 picks. the bucks smucked up again. the y can't even figure out how to lose correctly.
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Post#22 » by SpeedBump44 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:33 pm

I think tanking is ridiculous.

Let's just lose games on purpose because it's going to help. That's a bunch of garbage. The Bucks can go out on the floor and lose on purpose and it should be a good thing?

Winning is a culture.. an attitude.. a way of life. You can't just turn it on and off.

Think of all the great teams of all time. Would Vince Lombardi ever tank a game? Maybe his famous quote should have been "Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing.. except when you are tanking, which is what all great franchises do."

I firmly believe in going out there every game, trying your best to win, and letting the chips fall where they may. Many of the great young players in the league were not extremely high picks. Many were picked in the 4-12 range, which is exactly where we'll fall if we continue to stink like we are.

I can't believe we're even talking about this after last year :banghead:

Root for our players to improve and play better.
Root for our inept front office to actually do something right now..
But rooting for the team to lose? That's just stupid.
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Post#23 » by InsideOut » Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:42 pm

Citizen.Eras3d wrote:I don't see the point in trying for the #1 pick in this draft. There's no clear cut number one player and I disagree that there are 3 Chris Paul/Deron Williams types. People were saying the same sort of thing about the strength in the draft we've just had and that obviously hasn't been the case. If you end up with a pick from #3-#7 you're going to get a good player regardless.


And this is why you tank. Not for just a shot at the #1 pick, but to make sure you get as high a pick as you can. What if we go on a little run and end up with the 8th, 9th or 10th pick. What if we get 9 and someone behind us jumps up and bumps us back to 10th? By tanking we make sure we get that good player from 3-7. I don't want us missing out on a good player by getting a pick worse than 7.
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Post#24 » by jakecronus8 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:47 pm

For what this team needs, the only player worth tanking for is Derrick Rose, who is a few years away from truly impacting the game. I'm not for tanking(blatantly blowing games), but I am for bringing in young players and getting rid of our garbage while at the same time force feeding Bogut and Yi. We will more than likely lose a bunch of games but we will at least develop the future of the team and increase our chances of landing a player like Rose. As we learned three years ago, you don't have to have the worst record to get a top pick.
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Post#25 » by blkout » Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:05 pm

InsideOut wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



And this is why you tank. Not for just a shot at the #1 pick, but to make sure you get as high a pick as you can. What if we go on a little run and end up with the 8th, 9th or 10th pick. What if we get 9 and someone behind us jumps up and bumps us back to 10th? By tanking we make sure we get that good player from 3-7. I don't want us missing out on a good player by getting a pick worse than 7.


The Bucks have like the 6th worst record in the league, and they have done it without tanking. The point I was making is that there are no flat out superstars in this draft worth destroying any little dignity the organization might have for.

People might say that's wrong and cream themselves over Derrick Rose or whatever, but it happens every year, like Tyrus Thomas the athletic freak who was going to come into the league and change games with his D for example.
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Post#26 » by jerrod » Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:56 pm

MajorDad wrote:the problem with the way the bucks tank, is that they don't even know how to tank correctly. they should have started tanking from day 1 like the twolves did. they should have traded redd and mo and Cv at the begining of the year for picks or young talent to ensure we did not win. rather tha n resigning mason, they should have sessions on the team from day 1.

or we should have traded for Rickey Davis. if ever you want your team to tank, have ricky davis on your team.

I would have to believe that MO's, CV and redd's trade value has all gone down since the start of the year. and now wit h our 19 wins, it's going to be very hrd to sneek into the top 3 picks. the bucks smucked up again. the y can't even figure out how to lose correctly.


that is flat out, the dumbest thing i've ever heard
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Post#27 » by SupremeHustle » Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:59 pm

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that is flat out, the dumbest thing i've ever heard


You should have read his post when he was known as Big Reed. It was like an alien language and English had a half-witted baby.

No offense.
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Post#28 » by LUKE23 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:00 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



You should have read his post when he was known as Big Reed. It was like an alien language and English had a half-witted baby.

No offense.


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Post#29 » by icat2000 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:08 pm

I don't support tanking, period.
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Post#30 » by LISTEN2JAZZ » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:48 pm

Don't call it tanking because it polarizes too much. Just say focus more on developing Bogut+Yi than you do on trying to win every possible game.
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Post#31 » by InsideOut » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:15 pm

adamcz wrote:Don't call it tanking because it polarizes too much. Just say focus more on developing Bogut+Yi than you do on trying to win every possible game.


Great idea. That will keep both the tankers and Lombari clones happy. So instead of tanking we call it giving the young guys more PT and resting the vets. However, if we keep Redd in at the end of close games will we still be accused of tanking? :rofl:

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