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Post#81 » by Nebula1 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:36 pm

2ss2ls wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

The Bucks need a superstar player or two all-star players at the least (remember Big Dog and Allen). The only way we can do that is through the draft, and you are correct, we may already have one in Yi. If we can get another player of that potentional (and get rid of one of our guards) I will have hope once again.



That's my thinking as well. That's why I'm in no hurry to trade for some quick fix and ruin our position in the coming draft.

That's also why I see things as fine right now. Let it grow naturally and draft well and we're okay.

The main reason I don't want Harris fired is because he's drafted well imo. I'd like to see what he does with the next pick.
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Post#82 » by ReddManBogieMan » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:58 pm

Totally agree with you Nebula1 100%.
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Post#83 » by GrandAdmiralDan » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:29 am

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One 50 win season and making it out of the first round of the playoffs twice in the last 20 years is what is staggering.


Kohl is young and still developing. It has only been 20 years. Let's give him another 20 years and see if he can turn things around.


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So it's OK for you to take a four year hiatus because of a trade you don't like, but it's not OK for Bucks fans to be upset that this team has been mediocre or worse for almost 20 years running now? Get a clue.

Bottom line, if you ARE NOT fed up right now, you expect very little out of the teams you root for and really don't care about ever cheering for a contending team.

If you're fine with just watching the team play for entertainment value only and don't care about wins and losses, that's fine, but you're barking up the wrong tree on this forum. 99% of the people here are die hards who can plainly see how bad this organization is run.


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Post#84 » by europa » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:02 am

That's a great list Rilamann and it strikes to a point I've made before as well - everybody's focusing on what it will take to win a title and that's great. But at this stage, after two decades worth of mostly garbage, I'd be happy just to get back to the days of Nellie's Bucks which saw a very good team and a legit contender even if it meant no titles to show for it. I just want to see consistent winning basketball again. And as your list shows, there are a large number of teams that have managed to do that without the need for a superstar or landing a mega-star in the lottery. Smart, intelligent personnel decisions and good coaching would help this team immensely.
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Post#85 » by Fight the Tank » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:28 am

europa wrote:That's a great list Rilamann and it strikes to a point I've made before as well - everybody's focusing on what it will take to win a title and that's great. But at this stage, after two decades worth of mostly garbage, I'd be happy just to get back to the days of Nellie's Bucks which saw a very good team and a legit contender even if it meant no titles to show for it. I just want to see consistent winning basketball again. And as your list shows, there are a large number of teams that have managed to do that without the need for a superstar or landing a mega-star in the lottery. Smart, intelligent personnel decisions and good coaching would help this team immensely.


Couldn't agree more. I would be very happy with a consistent playoff team that is a fluke trade opportunity (Gasol) from making the jump to the title. Despite that this roster just doesn't work and we probably need to take another step backwards to take two or three forward.
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Post#86 » by ReddManBogieMan » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:17 am

GrandAdmiralDan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Kohl is young and still developing. It has only been 20 years. Let's give him another 20 years and see if he can turn things around.


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Post#87 » by MikeIsGood » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:39 am

europa wrote:That's a great list Rilamann and it strikes to a point I've made before as well - everybody's focusing on what it will take to win a title and that's great. But at this stage, after two decades worth of mostly garbage, I'd be happy just to get back to the days of Nellie's Bucks which saw a very good team and a legit contender even if it meant no titles to show for it. I just want to see consistent winning basketball again. And as your list shows, there are a large number of teams that have managed to do that without the need for a superstar or landing a mega-star in the lottery. Smart, intelligent personnel decisions and good coaching would help this team immensely.


That's certainly my main focus. I'm most concerned about how messed up and backwards our front office seems to be. I'm not confident on us being able to field (court?) a successful team, regardless of what people think of the talent our individual players have, with the apparent issues in our front office. Lots of people like to say it'd be as easy as (or at least, they'd be happy if) so-and-so was traded for this type of player, we drafted this type of player and they turned into a success. Is anyone even remotely confident in that happening given the track record of our team in recent memory?

I really don't feel like we'll be seeing much change in the end result unless some sort of change ends up happening else where (I speak specifically of coaching-through-ownership, and not necessarily who it is ultimately coaching or owning the team, but how things are done).

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