If all our players contracts were over, what would.....

Baddy Chuck · Post #1 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:27 pm

They be getting payed? I was just wondering what you guys think our players are really worth?

Here is the list and what they are CURRENTLY being payed.
Charlie Bell $3,106,000
Andrew Bogut $4,991,520
Dan Gadzuric $5,751,130
Royal Ivey $770,610
Yi Jianlian $2,777,760
Desmond Mason $5,000,000
David Noel $687,456
Michael Redd $14,520,000
Michael Ruffin $770,610
Ramon Sessions $427,163
Bobby Simmons $9,280,000
Awvee Storey $770,610
Charlie Villanueva $2,715,000
Jake Voskuhl $3,000,000
Mo Williams $7,750,000

okanoho · Post #2 » by **okanoho** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:12 pm

anyone that cost more than 5 millions is definitely over paid

trwi7 · Post #3 » by **trwi7** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:17 pm

Gadzuric- out of the league
Bogut- $9,000,000
Bell- $2,000,000
Ivey- $1,000,000
Yi- $3,000,000
Mason- $3,000,000
Noel- $687,456
Redd- $10,000,000
Ruffin- veterans minimum
Sessions- $427,163
Simmons- $2,000,000
Storey- veterans minimum
Villanueva- $4,500,000
Voskuhl- $1,500,000
Williams- $6,000,000

Post #4 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:17 pm

RingtheBell wrote:They be getting payed? I was just wondering what you guys think our players are really worth?

Here is the list and what they are CURRENTLY being payed.
Charlie Bell $3,106,000
Andrew Bogut $4,991,520
Dan Gadzuric $5,751,130
Royal Ivey $770,610
Yi Jianlian $2,777,760
Desmond Mason $5,000,000
David Noel $687,456
Michael Redd $14,520,000
Michael Ruffin $770,610
Ramon Sessions $427,163
Bobby Simmons $9,280,000
Awvee Storey $770,610
Charlie Villanueva $2,715,000
Jake Voskuhl $3,000,000
Mo Williams $7,750,000

What they're worth or what they'd get paid on the open market?

beastieboyz · Post #5 » by **beastieboyz** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:24 pm

Charlie Bell $3,000,000
Andrew Bogut $8,700,000
Dan Gadzuric $1,100,000
Royal Ivey $1,270,610
Yi Jianlian $2,777,760
Desmond Mason $4,000,000
David Noel $687,456
Michael Redd $11,520,000
Michael Ruffin $1,100,610
Ramon Sessions $600,000
Bobby Simmons $2,700,000
Awvee Storey $770,610
Charlie Villanueva $4,500,000
Jake Voskuhl $1,000,000
Mo Williams $7,750,000

bigkurty · Post #6 » by **bigkurty** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:11 am

DrugBust wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

What they're worth or what they'd get paid on the open market?

I was thinking the same thing. I think Twirl has a pretty good idea on what they are worth with his post but I am sure a few would be overpaid again and a few would be out of the league.

Those likely to be overpaid:
Redd
Gadz (he will still get money due to his size)
CV possibly cause of his "potential"
Yi and Mo would both get slightly overpaid too due to their age and potential still

Those likely to be out of the league:
Noel
Storey

europa · Post #7 » by **europa** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:26 am

Here's my list:

Bell - $3M
Bogut - $8M
Gadz - $1M
Ivey - $1M
Yi - $5M
Mason - $2.5M
Noel - $500,000
Redd - $11M
Ruffin - $1.5M
Sessions - $1M
Simmons - $4.5M
Redd - $11M
Storey - $600,000
Villanueva - $5M
Voskuhl - $1.5M
Mo - $6.5M

The toughest ones for me were Simmons and Villanueva. Both in my opinion are more talented than the figures I listed above but neither is worth more based on their production. Villanueva will be a very difficult player to assess value to going forward given the significant disparity between his potential and his true production. In my opinion, he'll be a headache for whatever team hopes to keep him long-term when his rookie contract expires.

The second thing that jumps out at me is that, in my opinion, the Bucks don't have any real bargains on their team other than Bogut to a slight extent and players like Voskuhl and Ruffin to a much lesser extent. On good teams you'll often find a number of players outperforming their salaries. With the Bucks, you have none of that and that speaks volumes, in my opinion, to the lack of talent on this team and why the record is so poor. It's difficult to win when you aren't getting value from your players and when you have so many who are overpaid.

trwi7 · Post #8 » by **trwi7** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:29 am

europa wrote:Bogut - $8M
Mo - $6.5M

trwi7 wrote:Bogut- $9,000,000
Williams- $6,000,000

Everybody remember this next time somebody calls me a Mo lover and Bogut hater. :lol:

europa · Post #9 » by **europa** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:31 am

trwi7 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Everybody remember this next time somebody calls me a Mo lover and Bogut hater.

I want this one on record too so I can point to this and say "Hey trwi7" wants to pay Mo less than I would."

Post #10 » by **blkout** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:36 am

Bell - 2 million
Bogut - 8 million
Gadzuric - Doritos
Ivey - 850k
Yi - All the tea
Mason - 1 million
Noel - 687,456
Redd - 10 million
Ruffin - 770,610
Sessions - 427,163
Simmons - 2 million
Storey - Parole
CV - 2,715,000
Voshkul - Free web hosting
Mo - 7 million