Two Bucks/Clippers trade ideas

LISTEN2JAZZ · Post #1 » by **LISTEN2JAZZ** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 12:08 am

Back before the Gasol trade, I thought the Bucks and Grizzlies were ideal trade partners - between the two teams you could have created one good win-now team and one team built well for the future. The Lakers serviced that deal, and now we need to find another option. I think that team is the Clippers.

Option #1 - Clippers win now and Bucks win later.
Bucks send: Redd, Bell
Clippers send: Thornton, Mobley, Thomas, 2009 1st round pick

Clippers have a nice starting lineup of:
Bell (or Livingston?)/Redd/Maggette/Brand/Kaman

Bucks go young with:
Mo/08 pick/Thornton/Yi/Bogut

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Option #2 - Bucks win now and Clippers win later.
Bucks send: 2008 1st, Yi, Sessions, Simmons, Gadz
Clippers send: Brand, Knight

Bucks get the nice starting lineup of:
Mo/Redd/Mason/Brand/Bogut (perhaps Knight starting with Mo off the bench?)

Clippers go young with Clippers pick/Bucks pick/Thornton/Yi/Kaman

Are there any other limbo teams like these two that would make good trading partners with us?

Newz · Post #2 » by **Newz** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 12:10 am

I would do the second trade in a heartbeat...

I am willing to move Redd and I really like Thornton, but if we do move Redd I'd like to see us pick up a 2008 first for him and not a 09.

trwi7 · Post #3 » by **trwi7** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 12:14 am

I would do either trade.

LISTEN2JAZZ · Post #4 » by **LISTEN2JAZZ** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 12:18 am

LukePliska wrote:I would do the second trade in a heartbeat...

I am willing to move Redd and I really like Thornton, but if we do move Redd I'd like to see us pick up a 2008 first for him and not a 09.

I'd love to see that too, but then we'd be asking for the #7 pick from this year, and the #14 pick from last year. Maybe they'd do it, but I wouldn't if I were them.

LUKE23 · Post #5 » by **LUKE23** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 12:19 am

Clippers have no reason to do #1.

#2 might be more viable and I would probably do it, although we'd still have to breakup the backcourt in a separate deal.

raferfenix · Post #6 » by **raferfenix** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 12:32 am

I can see the Clippers being very interested in either Mo or Redd if they are serious about keeping Elton Brand. They also would value Bobby Simmons more than probably any other team due to the success he had previously in that system.

I also can see the Bucks being front runners for Elton Brand if the Clippers decide to trade him. There isn't a young PF available that they'd value more than Yi I bet, if only for the financial ramifications. However, I worry about us retaining Brand in this situation, so I'm not nearly as sure it'd be worth it.

Post #7 » by **paulpressey25** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 3:29 am

Clippers would not do deal #1. Sterling won't take on Redd's contract nor give up a #1 and Thornton.

I would not do deal #2. I know a lot of you guys like Elton Brand. I do to. But for some reason I'm scared to death of the guy given the miles he's got on his body and this season killing injury he's had. I'd only take Brand coming back this way if I didn't have to give up Bogut/Yi/and our 2008 first.

LISTEN2JAZZ · Post #8 » by **LISTEN2JAZZ** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 3:39 am

PP, are there any players on other teams that you would move Yi + our lotto pick for? To me, that is the only way we can turn assets into immediate wins. I look at the players who may be available and see nothing but injury risks and psychos. Brand, Jermaine O'Neal, Artest, Carter...

LUKE23 · Post #9 » by **LUKE23** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 4:19 am

adamcz wrote:PP, are there any players on other teams that you would move Yi + our lotto pick for? To me, that is the only way we can turn assets into immediate wins. I look at the players who may be available and see nothing but injury risks and psychos. Brand, Jermaine O'Neal, Artest, Carter...

Brand is the only one I would even THINK about trading for out of that group.

Post #10 » by **paulpressey25** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 2:04 pm

adamcz wrote:PP, are there any players on other teams that you would move Yi + our lotto pick for? .

I'd have to think about it. To get the caliber player you are looking for, that guy will typically have a large salary so we'll have to send along "negative assets" like a Bobby or Gadz to get the deal done.

Going to Bill Simmons point you find a market where Yi will be overvalued because of the Chinese population. So that narrows it down to the California teams, Houston, DC and New York (maybe a couple others but those are the big ones). Who do you want on those teams? I guess Brand is the best asset, but I don't see him as the guy you want back only because I'd like to see how effective a player he is after this injury. I don't know what the league history is of guys who come back after this type of injury, but remember Edgar Bennett losing his edge completely after his achilles issue.