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Clash of the Titans: Greer vs. Markota!

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Clash of the Titans: Greer vs. Markota! 

Post#1 » by GrandAdmiralDan » Tue Mar 4, 2008 1:07 pm

I stumbled across this while trying to answer a Markota question for one of my CBA compatriots.

Olympiacos needed overtime to earn their first win of the Top 16 season, beating Zalgiris Kaunas 86-84 in Piraeus, Greece as both teams are now 1-2.

In a dramatic finish to the fourth period Damir Markota hit a three-pointer to give the visitors a three-point lead with one minute to go, but Lynn Greer matched him on Olympiacos' next possession.

Greer led all scorers with 22 points


And from that same article, another mention of a former Buck, and an NBA Legend:

The Malaga club improve to 1-2 while the Russian champions fall to 2-1 and lose their first Top 16 game since their title-winning run in 2006.

Daniel Santiago led all scorers with 20 points and added six rebounds for the hosts.


This was not from some really long article, but yet of the 7 players mentioned in it, 3 of them are former Bucks from recent years.
Kind of strange.

The article is from February 28th, so I'm surprised no one else found this already.

Anyway, I got a kick out of this and figured others would as well.
Here is the link to that article:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/28022008/ ... alter.html
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Post#2 » by upnorthfan » Tue Mar 4, 2008 1:34 pm

Wasn't Big Baby Glen Davis abailable with the pick we traded for Markato? If so, another LH blunder. We need one more big body to be a legit frontline, and Davis would have expedited that hunt, thusly allowing us to cocentrate on the "smalls". As it is, accross the board we need help.

THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE we need is a PG.

Everything else secondary assuming we (Keep Yi and Bogut and hopefully CV).

Get a legit PG, move Mo to SG and move Redd out of town. Missing on Davis, and letting Ersan go overseas, signing Mason, and not allowing Noel to get a few minutes, has set us back once again. Pretty much what I said in the preseason.

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Post#3 » by GrandAdmiralDan » Tue Mar 4, 2008 1:47 pm

upnorthfan1 wrote:Wasn't Big Baby Glen Davis abailable with the pick we traded for Markato? If so, another LH blunder. We need one more big body to be a legit frontline, and Davis would have expedited that hunt, thusly allowing us to cocentrate on the "smalls". As it is, accross the board we need help.


It was an absolutely moronic trade. Disregarding whether Markota was someone we should have wanted, we traded the BETTER of our two 2nd round picks in a STRONG draft, 2007, for the second to last pick in a WEAK draft, 2006. That made no sense at all. At the very least, it should have been for the lesser of our two 2007 2nd rounders, or better yet, a 2008 2nd round pick.

Absolutely moronic. And this IS one of those things that was Larry Harris' fault. Although Dave Babcock was pushing for this trade and managed to convince Harris to do it, but Harris was completely in favor of it. He was looking for a "home run" and thought Markota had a shot at being one of those absolute steals. So for anyone willing to dump Harris so Babcock can take over (which is likely what will happen if Harris is fired) keep that in mind too.

However, while this is something to blame Harris for, it does partially go back to the dysfunction with Kohl and Kohl's cronies. Since they tie Harris' hands and prevent him from making moves he'd like to in order to get top-level talent on the team, Harris is left with few options to attempt to acquire that kind of talent, and he has twice tried to reach for home run picks in the 2nd round (Ersan, Markota) rather than going with safer picks that just have a ceiling of being good role players off the bench, like Ryan Gomes in 2005 or Big Baby Davis in 2007.
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Post#4 » by unklchuk » Tue Mar 4, 2008 6:26 pm

"Harris is left with few options to attempt to acquire that kind of talent, and he has twice tried to reach for home run picks in the 2nd round (Ersan, Markota) rather than going with safer picks that just have a ceiling of being good role players off the bench, like Ryan Gomes in 2005 or Big Baby Davis in 2007."

A tendency made worse by the over-estimation of talent on the bench of the Bucks squad. You can go for home run picks if you think you already have a good bench. The old Deepest & Most Talented Team delusion.
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Post#5 » by oshmeehan » Tue Mar 4, 2008 6:41 pm

How's this for a loaded team

The team with Santiago (Unicaja) also has Haislip and Jiri Welsch on it

They actually play Ersan's FC Barcelona team tomorrow

Speaking of Ersan, he's been playing a bit better as of recent weeks including many highlight dunks as well as blocks
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Post#6 » by jerrod » Tue Mar 4, 2008 6:59 pm

would the all star team of former bucks beat the current bucks?
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Post#7 » by GrandAdmiralDan » Tue Mar 4, 2008 8:08 pm

oshmeehan wrote:How's this for a loaded team

The team with Santiago (Unicaja) also has Haislip and Jiri Welsch on it


I'd love to have THAT team play the 1992 Dream Team. It would be a total blow out.

Is that something you could do in the latest version of NBA Live?
I'm thinking Unicaja would win by at least 30, possibly even 40+
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Post#8 » by coolhandluke121 » Tue Mar 4, 2008 11:44 pm

upnorthfan1 wrote:Wasn't Big Baby Glen Davis abailable with the pick we traded for Markato? If so, another LH blunder.


Jermareo Davidson would have been the right pick for the Bucks, but yes it was a huge blunder all along.
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Post#9 » by slappyg » Wed Mar 5, 2008 3:15 am

[quote="upnorthfan1"]Wasn't Big Baby Glen Davis abailable with the pick we traded for Markato? If so, another LH blunder. We need one more big body to be a legit frontline, and Davis would have expedited that hunt, thusly allowing us to cocentrate on the "smalls". As it is, accross the board we need help.

We could have had Diener the year we took Bogut

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