Here's our new PG for the future....

Post #1 » by **paulpressey25** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 4:17 am

Romeo Miller.....

While that's a joke line, you guys might want to check out this Wall Street Journal article......

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1204851 ... side_today

Apparently the kid sucks but he got a full USC basketball scholarship because his best friend is a top recruit. So they made a package deal with USC to get Romeo a scholarship.

There are some classic lines in that story.

trwi7 · Post #2 » by **trwi7** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 4:19 am

Wow that's ridiculous and completely disgusting work by Tim Floyd.

jerrod · Post #3 » by **jerrod** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 4:39 am

you think that's bad

you should hear him rap

MajorDad · Post #4 » by **MajorDad** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 5:33 am

let's see, Ohio state gave a scholarship to Conley to secure Oden. that was a package deal. Oden turned down several offers to teams like Duke, kansas and UNC because they already had a starting PG, and Conley wouldn't get his chance to start as a freshman and go one and out. oden would only sign with a school that promised Conley would also start.

The same thing happened to Zach randolph. Randolph was headed to Purdue, but they didn't want to give his best friend ( a good guard taylor ? ) a scholarship, so they both went to MSu as a package deal.

I recall UW giving kim hughes a scholarship and also giving his twin brother kerry Hughes a scholarship to secure the deal. That was in the 60s/70's.

Admittedly, in my three examples, the other player involved was also a good player. But it was a package deal.

Look at Purdue this year. 4 of their incoming freshman all played on the same AAU team. Purdue landed E'twoin Moore by telling him his three other buddies would also get scholarships and they could all play together. I feel bad for that 5th guy on E'twan's AAu team. maybe he was a junior. Purdue's entire recruitment class last year was one huge package deal. fortunately they all had talent.

At IU, rather than give Gordon's big buddie a scholarship, they gave both his AAU coach and his father's friend a job at IU. i think that's a lot worse - although perfectly legal.

mayo didn't have any little buddies when he went to USC, so he just took the under the table cash.

emunney · Post #5 » by **emunney** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 5:39 am

You present the difference, and that's the source of the dilemma: Lil Romeo is not worthy of a scholarship -- he also happens to be insanely rich -- therefore he's displacing someone who is both more worthy and more needy. It's not that it's a package deal; that way of looking at it completely misses the point.

upnorthfan · Post #6 » by **upnorthfan** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 2:07 pm

This goes back to the days when Bill Walton would get $250 for mowing someone's lawn, and I am sure even further back than that.

That is why I loved Bobby Knight growing up as a kid. He was hard as hell (Bill Parcells is his best friend), but he always ran a clean program. For 30 plus years he won and did it the right way, and passed it on to such others coaches as Coach K at Duke, and countless others. China in the 70's was following him around as much as he would let them, learning as much as they could about the game of basketball.

Now in 18 months we have all kinds of wrong doing. And don't think Knight was so big "they" looked the other way, he FOR REAL kept it clean.

The story goes this seven foot center who was coveted by everyone at the time(name was never devulged), told Knight he would attend Indiana if his girlfriend also got a scholarship.

Coach Knight told him to take a hike. Big diference between two coaches.

LISTEN2JAZZ · Post #7 » by **LISTEN2JAZZ** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 2:50 pm

That story is just unreal. Wow.

RideEmCowboy24 · Post #8 » by **RideEmCowboy24** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 4:54 pm

i love the comparisons:

Scoring Avg.: 29.2/8.6
Often Compared to: LeBron James/Lil Bow Wow

midranger · Post #9 » by **midranger** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 5:11 pm

If he's a true PG, he should be starting for us right now.

Represent · Post #10 » by **Represent** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 8:02 pm

upnorthfan1 wrote:This goes back to the days when Bill Walton would get $250 for mowing someone's lawn, and I am sure even further back than that.

That is why I loved Bobby Knight growing up as a kid. He was hard as hell (Bill Parcells is his best friend), but he always ran a clean program. For 30 plus years he won and did it the right way, and passed it on to such others coaches as Coach K at Duke, and countless others. China in the 70's was following him around as much as he would let them, learning as much as they could about the game of basketball.

Now in 18 months we have all kinds of wrong doing. And don't think Knight was so big "they" looked the other way, he FOR REAL kept it clean.

The story goes this seven foot center who was coveted by everyone at the time(name was never devulged), told Knight he would attend Indiana if his girlfriend also got a scholarship.

Coach Knight told him to take a hike. Big diference between two coaches.

Thats why I love that man. Only wish more coaches could be like him. There wont be another like him for a while.

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #11 » by **Buck You** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 9:22 pm

Yet the school broke no rules, and Tim Floyd, USC's basketball coach, makes no apologies about Mr. Miller's potential to sell tickets. "We may have more 11- to 17-year-old girls in the stands than we've had in the past," he says.

Tim Floyd, why don't you have a seat over there?

Post #12 » by **Ruzious** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 1:59 am

Speaking of PG's, this picture got me a little misty eyed.

I'll be rooting for the Celts in the playoffs.

Nebula1 · Post #13 » by **Nebula1** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 2:02 am

This is going to frustrate me and at the Celtics game I'm going early to yell at LK. Budget the kid 2 minutes. There is no reason not to.

ExTasDeeMan · Post #14 » by **ExTasDeeMan** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 2:03 am

ITS A TRAP! THERE IS NO STOPPING BASKETBALL OF THAT MAGNITUDE!

Post #15 » by **MickeyDavis** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 3:14 am

Cassell is listed at 6'3", Ray at 6'5". Guess Sammy has shrunk in his old age.

jerrod · Post #16 » by **jerrod** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 6:53 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Cassell is listed at 6'3", Ray at 6'5". Guess Sammy has shrunk in his old age.

i think it's just the stronger gravity here on earth finally taking it's toll

midranger · Post #17 » by **midranger** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 5:05 pm

jerrod wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

i think it's just the stronger gravity here on earth finally taking it's toll

So that's why Cassell could never dunk. Makes sense.

Well played sir.

fam3381 · Post #18 » by **fam3381** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 5:51 pm

emunney wrote:You present the difference, and that's the source of the dilemma: Lil Romeo is not worthy of a scholarship -- he also happens to be insanely rich -- therefore he's displacing someone who is both more worthy and more needy.

Exactly. "Package deals" are irrelevant IMO unless they give undeserving players scholarships, which is what's happening here.

In fairness to Romeo Miller, he was a 14 ppg/6 apg guy last year but I guess his numbers this year were down because of a knee injury. Even so, no one believes he's deserving of a USC scholarship, and an 18-year old with chronic knee problems is just another reason to wonder why Floyd could give Miller a scholarship with a straight face.