OT: Rose Inching Toward No. 1 Pick In The Draft

[redred9]

mo for haslem would, imo, be perfect for this team. We need a Haslem almost as much as we need a pg.

I wonder, if Miami gets Beasley first, then Memphis picks.. do they grab Rose and trade Conley for our pick? hmm..

[trwi7]

We need a Haslem almost as much as we need a pg.

Can somebody please explain to me what good Haslem does for us? That has never been answered. He's a role player, role players aren't going to make us better right now.

[europa]

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I think they might consider a Redd/Wade backcourt with Wade at PG.Wade has played PG before.

He's not really a PG and the Heat haven't shown any inclination to play him there full time. All of the moves they've made have been to bring in a PG to play alongside Wade - preferably one who is a good shooter. That's why they wanted Mo last summer and why they may still have an interest in him if they don't get Rose.

Can somebody please explain to me what good Haslem does for us? That has never been answered.

I've posted numerous times the reasons why I like Haslem. Among them:

1. He's a good defender and would be a major upgrade defensively over Yi and Villanueva.

2. He's a good rebounder.

3. He plays smart.

4. He's a solid offensive player who can hit the mid-range jumper (which is all I think is needed to be paired alongside Bogut).

5. He provides either strong depth at PF behind Yi or the ability to start should Yi's development remain slow. Either way, the Bucks are better in the frontcourt and that helps them take a step toward overall improvement as well.

[carmelbrownqueen]

I would take Rose #1 as well, but I think I'd be happy with the #2 pick as well.

I'm just not sold on Beasley and if we were to get the second pick and Rose was already gone I probably would seriously consider trading the pick.

[europa]

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I'm just not sold on Beasley and if we were to get the second pick and Rose was already gone I probably would seriously consider trading the pick.

That works for me mainly because I'm tired of the Bucks spending every summer acquiring a new PF of the future. Honestly, the only player in this draft I really want is Rose. If the Bucks can't get him, I'm all for trading the pick.

[trwi7]

1. He's a good defender and would be a major upgrade defensively over Yi and Villanueva.

He will most likely be on the bench behind Yi. That's basically what we've been trying to do for years. Offensively talented starters. Good defenders on the bench. It doesn't work.

2. He's a good rebounder.

Would you call Charlie Villanueva and Channing Frye good rebounders? Because they have higher rebound rates than Haslem.

3. He plays smart.

Fine but he's not that talented. We need more talent more than we need smart players right now.

[Buck You]

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That works for me mainly because I'm tired of the Bucks spending every summer acquiring a new PF of the future. Honestly, the only player in this draft I really want is Rose. If the Bucks can't get him, I'm all for trading the pick.

Same with me. Rose is the only guy worth going after IMO. I'd rather trade the pick if we don't get the #1 or maybe #2 for a proven commodity.

[europa]

The reality is Yi may not be ready to play major minutes next season. Haslem likely would receive a lot of minutes so even if he technically was the backup he could be on the court for a good chunk of the game. So he would provide a major upgrade there defensively.

I compare him to a poor man's Joe Smith. He's not as talented as Smith was but he does many of the same things. You can win with guys like that as key parts of your rotation.

Plus, he's only under contract for two more seasons. So you remove Mo's bad contract and create more flexibility down the road while acquiring a player who addresses some of your team's biggest needs.

Win win. Or as Michael Scott would say, win, win, win.

[LUKE23]

If we got #2 and Rose was gone, I'd look to package Redd and #2 for a stud. If we can't land an absolute stud with that package, I'd just use the pick on Beasley. If Beasley is the real deal at all, and I think he will be, you can always trade him very easily later.

There is no point in trading #2 though unless you can get a very very good player back.

[europa]

If the Bucks got the second pick and couldn't get Rose, I'd make Beasley available and see if somebody blew me away with a great offer. If that didn't happen, I'd draft him, immediately deal Villanueva and possibly look to deal Yi as well. You can't keep all three and if you draft another PF that means you've missed out on the chance to address other glaring needs on your team. Perhaps Villanueva or Yi could help you do that.

[ReasonablySober]

I actually wonder if the Bucks would prefer Beasley to Rose. If they think he's a Melo type SF they might.

[Nowak008]

Why aren't people sold on Beasly?

He has one of the best seasons in NCAA history, and as freshmen it makes it all the more impressive. I think because people are so impressed with Rose and Beasly isn't the caliber prospect that Oden and Durant are that people are down on Beasly.

There is a reason 65% of the GM's have him number one.

[LUKE23]

I like Beasley and think he will be very good, I wouldn't be against trading him if it made sense though.

I don't see the Carmelo comparisons whatsoever. Melo's first step at his size is absolute insanity, that is why he is so good. When you watch Melo you think small foward, when you watch Beasley you think power forward. I think a more athletic Coleman (as far as college comparisons) is more accurate.

[Buck You]

Or Zach Randolph.

[DH34Phan]

So you remove Mo's bad contract and create more flexibility down the road while acquiring a player who addresses some of your team's biggest needs.

According to you cap flexibility doesn't mean anything to the Bucks, so you really shouldn't use it in your argument.

[europa]

No, I said trading assets for expirings so you create cap room in the future doesn't solve this team's primary problem. A Mo for Haslem trade is 180 degrees removed from that.

[Wise1]

I've had Rose #1 overall even before the season started. He'll be a great one.