Bucks/Celtics - 4/8

WEFFPIM · Post #321 » by **WEFFPIM** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 3:54 am

icat2000 wrote:I'm just amused about how the three turtles jump all over the Mo-type play from Sessions and will mention it in every game thread for the next five years.

A play that stupid deserves mentioning, no matter who does it.

rilamann · Post #322 » by **rilamann** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 4:00 am

icat2000 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I'm just amused about how the three turtles jump all over the Mo-type play from Sessions and will mention it in every game thread for the next five years.

Im more amused that if you replace one of the two ''Rs'' in Midranger with an ''A'' you can use the remaining letters to spell out ''I Mr Agenda''.

Just messin with ya Mid. :lol:

Im a big fan of word jumbles sorry.

icat2000 · Post #323 » by **icat2000** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 4:01 am

Yes. It deserves a mention. I agree with that. But the rate the turtles are ranting about it. I can foresee it being mention on numerous times in the future.

midranger · Post #324 » by **midranger** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 4:13 am

You better believe it will be. Just like all the times Bogut quit on the team, or all the games Max choked away.

jerrod · Post #325 » by **jerrod** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 4:23 am

icat2000 wrote:Yes. It deserves a mention. I agree with that. But the rate the turtles are ranting about it. I can foresee it being mention on numerous times in the future.

why doesn't it deserve the same mention that mo's got?

paul · Post #326 » by **paul** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 4:35 am

jerrod wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

why doesn't it deserve the same mention that mo's got?

It does, it was a boneheaded play no doubt about that. Sessions does however have to be give the 'rookie mistake' leniency that Yi received for 3 months of this year. If he's making those boneheaded plays in 5 years I'll be tearing him a new one.

jimmy_n13 · Post #327 » by **jimmy_n13** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 4:53 am

jerrod wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

why doesn't it deserve the same mention that mo's got?

Probably because it's only his 11th game. However, the Sessions lovers have to get real and see the fact that he seems to be putting up very similar numbers (without scoring as much- but still shooting heaps) to Mo. I'm not sure about the intangible stuff but he shouldn't get such a free ride.

REDDzone · Post #328 » by **REDDzone** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 4:56 am

jerrod wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

why doesn't it deserve the same mention that mo's got?

Well, that loss did hurt a lot more. Seeing as how we didn't know our team sucked yet.

But Sessions still made an idiotic play. Its just about playing favorites though, some people made excuses for Mo then, some make excuses for Ramon now, both are wrong because any basketball player who would do that is an idiot, and any high-school player would tell you that.

Nowak008 · Post #329 » by **Nowak008** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 5:39 am

We have one of the most incompetent coaches in history. I'll say it was neither Sessions or Mo's fault.

REDDzone · Post #330 » by **REDDzone** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 6:05 am

Nowak008 wrote:We have one of the most incompetent coaches in history. I'll say it was neither Sessions or Mo's fault.

If a high-school point guard was running the ball down with under 10 seconds to go with his team down by 3 points and he drives for a lay-up, I would call him a freakin' idiot.

This is the NBA, theres a scoreboard, and a shotclock, there are no excuses for that.

LK is an idiot, but I mean it just seems like common sense to me not to got for a 2 point shot as time expires when you are down 3!!!

WEFFPIM · Post #331 » by **WEFFPIM** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 6:15 am

paul wrote:It does, it was a boneheaded play no doubt about that. Sessions does however have to be give the 'rookie mistake' leniency that Yi received for 3 months of this year. If he's making those boneheaded plays in 5 years I'll be tearing him a new one.

The reason I can't do this is because he isn't a rookie to the entire game of basketball. He's been playing all his life, he knows how the scoring system in basketball works. In fact, there's plenty of more opportunities to double-check the score in an NBA arena than anywhere else he's ever played in.

I will continue to bring up this play because it's something that a person, regardless of how many years into their NBA career they are, who has devoted his life to basketball, should ever do. Ever.

Nowak008 · Post #332 » by **Nowak008** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 6:17 am

REDDzone wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

If a high-school point guard was running the ball down with under 10 seconds to go with his team down by 3 points and he drives for a lay-up, I would call him a freakin' idiot.

This is the NBA, theres a scoreboard, and a shotclock, there are no excuses for that.

LK is an idiot, but I mean it just seems like common sense to me not to got for a 2 point shot as time expires when you are down 3!!!

(picture)

The players both obviously thought we were only down 2. It's on the coach to make sure everyone knows the situation. Do you really think that they in knew the score and made those plays? In pick up games I have to ask the score every of mins because I am focused on the game.

Look at the Memphis collapse. The players should have known to foul and its Calipari's fault they didn't.

REDDzone · Post #333 » by **REDDzone** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 6:24 am

So you think its too much to ask for a POINT GUARD to know the score of a close game with under a minute left to play?

emunney · Post #334 » by **emunney** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 6:41 am

Nowak008 wrote:In pick up games I have to ask the score every of mins because I am focused on the game.

I can definitely relate to this. I never know what the score is in a game I'm playing. Of course, there's never a scoreboard.

It's inexcusable with either Mo or Ramon, but there really is a difference between it happening to a 5 year vet and it happening to a rookie in his 12th game. It's not enough of a difference to let Ramon off the hook, but it's a difference.

Rockmaninoff · Post #335 » by **Rockmaninoff** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 12:02 pm

jimmy_n13 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Probably because it's only his 11th game. However, the Sessions lovers have to get real and see the fact that he seems to be putting up very similar numbers (without scoring as much- but still shooting heaps) to Mo. I'm not sure about the intangible stuff but he shouldn't get such a free ride.

The shooting heaps part I disagree with. Sessions is only averaging 9 attempts per 36 minutes. Williams on the otherhand is averaging 14 attempts per 36, for his career.

I don't know if some people expect the point guard to never shoot, but 9 attempts is about exactly what we 'should' desire from our 'pure point guard'. Mark Jackson averaged around 9 or 10 per 36 for his career. Compare the the career averages of Jackson with Sessions per 36. That's why I'm so high on the kid. Chuck the bullstuff.

As far as Sessions defense goes, I'll give him the benefit that it's only his, what, 11th game. He'll get used to these players as he gets more experience, and improve. There will always be guys that give him trouble (as there are for everyone but the 5 or so superstars), but that's what Charlie Bell is for.

Rookie mistake on the 2 instead of 3. The universe always balances itself.

europa · Post #336 » by **europa** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 2:14 pm

Good post Rockmaninoff. Numbers don't always tell the story. It's how a player is getting his numbers. Sessions gets his by running the offense, creating for others and constantly looking to find the open man (last night that meant far too many reckless passes). Mo gets his by looking to shoot a lot and then looking to pass. Huge difference in their approach. I much prefer the former. That's not to say Sessions is better than Mo; it's far too early to make that declaration. But I do believe the way Sessions plays is far more beneficial to this particular team than the way Mo plays. It's all about the approach and Sessions has the right approach. Whether he has the talent to start down the road remains to be seen.

And I agree with Reddzone about where the blame falls for the last play. Krystkowiak is a bad head coach but there's no way he should be blamed when his player(s) make a boneheaded move. What Sessions did was dumb. It was a terrible mistake that simply should not happen at the professional level. Hopefully, he learns from it.

jerrod · Post #337 » by **jerrod** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 2:30 pm

i still think the ghost of anthony goldwire haunts the locker room and gets in the head of our starting pgs

you'll believe me when sessions calls a timeout we don't have tonight

NeedsMoreCheese · Post #338 » by **NeedsMoreCheese** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 10:16 pm

Rockmaninoff wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

The shooting heaps part I disagree with. Sessions is only averaging 9 attempts per 36 minutes. Williams on the otherhand is averaging 14 attempts per 36, for his career.

I don't know if some people expect the point guard to never shoot, but 9 attempts is about exactly what we 'should' desire from our 'pure point guard'. Mark Jackson averaged around 9 or 10 per 36 for his career. Compare the the career averages of Jackson with Sessions per 36. That's why I'm so high on the kid. Chuck the bullstuff.

As far as Sessions defense goes, I'll give him the benefit that it's only his, what, 11th game. He'll get used to these players as he gets more experience, and improve. There will always be guys that give him trouble (as there are for everyone but the 5 or so superstars), but that's what Charlie Bell is for.

Rookie mistake on the 2 instead of 3. The universe always balances itself.

Well yeah I mean the guy has never played any sort of organized basketball before these 11 games, how can we expect him to know the rules?