Mayo declares; will hire agent...

DanoMac · Post #1 » by **DanoMac** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:39 am

Just saw on ESPN. Good news.

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #2 » by **Buck You** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:40 am

Shocker.

Post #3 » by **Wade-A-Holic** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:50 am

This is probably the least excited about a draft that I've been in a while. I'll be happy if we win the lottery, but I don't even think Derrick Rose is as good as some are making him out to be. I think he's a weak #1 overall pick, kind of like Bogut was.

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #4 » by **Buck You** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:54 am

Wade-A-Holic wrote:This is probably the least excited about a draft that I've been in a while. I'll be happy if we win the lottery, but I don't even think Derrick Rose is as good as some are making him out to be. I think he's a weak #1 overall pick, kind of like Bogut was.

What don't you like about Rose? He's a 6'4 guard who is extremely explosive, can shoot a little and is a good passer. Plus, he's only what, 19? The kid's potential is through the roof.

Post #5 » by **Wade-A-Holic** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:01 am

ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

What don't you like about Rose? He's a 6'4 guard who is extremely explosive, can shoot a little and is a good passer. Plus, he's only what, 19? The kid's potential is through the roof.

I hate to admit this, but I agreed with what Skip Bayless said about him. I just don't see the killer instinct. He's a pretty good passer, but I don't think his vision is anything to write home about. Maybe it's that Dwyane Wade-like extremely calm demeanor that's throwing me off. I could be totally wrong about him. I'm just saying I don't think he's on the level of a Deron Williams or Chris Paul. I know he's a different kind of player, though.

Maybe he's not a weak #1 overall pick... Just not a very strong one, if that makes sense.

The disappointing thing about this draft for me is that I see a pretty considerable drop off after Rose and Beasley - and I can find more things not to like about most of the prospects after those two than I do like.

MikeIsGood · Post #6 » by **MikeIsGood** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:03 am

If we don't get Rose, I'd be calmly pleased about Mayo. Probably more so than with anyone else. He changed my mind throughout the year.

Post #7 » by **Wade-A-Holic** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:14 am

MikeIsGood wrote:If we don't get Rose, I'd be calmly pleased about Mayo. Probably more so than with anyone else. He changed my mind throughout the year.

There are things about Mayo that I like more than Rose, actually.

He's bigger. He's better and more polished defensively (although Rose isn't bad). While he has some turnover issues, his court vision and passing skills are better. With some more polish I think he'll be somewhere between Chauncey Billups and Brandon Roy, which is fine by me.

Post #8 » by **Wade-A-Holic** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:15 am

Actually I think I've just talked myself into Mayo being my favorite player for the Bucks in this draft.

DH34Phan · Post #9 » by **DH34Phan** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:25 am

Mayo would be an amazing pick at 6 or 7.

worthlessBucks · Post #10 » by **worthlessBucks** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:40 am

Assuming Minnesota misses out on #1/#2, I have them pegged as a definite Mayo taker at 3 or 4. They need a PG, and although Mayo isn't a pure PG (combo), I'm sure Kevin McHale will love the star power/media attention that comes with Mayo. Mayo has been in the national spotlight since he was a middle schooler, the TWolves will look to rekindle some of those traits that Garnett brought to the table and their organization currently lacks.

ReddManBogieMan · Post #11 » by **ReddManBogieMan** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:07 am

I would love a Back court of Mayo and Sessions next year. I would assume that we would need to get the #3 pick to land Mayo (assuming Beasley & Rose go 1&2).

Does anyone know the percentages for the Bucks landing the #3 off hand? I know we got a 4.5% chance at #1, but I don't know what it would be for the rest. If someone could share this that would be appreciated.

We could than trade either Williams or Redd and have those guards play major minutes.

Sessions
Mayo
Mason
Yi
Bogut

:droop:

Post #12 » by **Wade-A-Holic** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:10 am

MFScho wrote:Assuming Minnesota misses out on #1/#2, I have them pegged as a definite Mayo taker at 3 or 4. They need a PG, and although Mayo isn't a pure PG (combo), I'm sure Kevin McHale will love the star power/media attention that comes with Mayo. Mayo has been in the national spotlight since he was a middle schooler, the TWolves will look to rekindle some of those traits that Garnett brought to the table and their organization currently lacks.

I don't think Minnesota is necessarily a lock to draft Mayo. Their center position consists of Mark Madsen and Michael Doleac right now, so Brook Lopez is a real possibility. Plus they've already invested multiple 1st round picks on guards in the past few years (Foye, Brewer, McCants)

ReddManBogieMan · Post #13 » by **ReddManBogieMan** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:14 am

Wade-A-Holic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I don't think Minnesota is necessarily a lock to draft Mayo. Their center position consists of Mark Madsen and Michael Doleac right now, so Brook Lopez is a real possibility. Plus they've already invested multiple 1st round picks on guards in the past few years (Foye, Brewer, McCants)

I agree, but I think the Sonics and the Knicks would be locks for Mayo at #3-4 though, IMO.

worthlessBucks · Post #14 » by **worthlessBucks** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:20 am

Wade-A-Holic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I don't think Minnesota is necessarily a lock to draft Mayo. Their center position consists of Mark Madsen and Michael Doleac right now, so Brook Lopez is a real possibility. Plus they've already invested multiple 1st round picks on guards in the past few years (Foye, Brewer, McCants)

I agree that Brook/Jordan are viable options considering the void the Wolves have at center, but this is Kevin McHale we're talking about, he'll go guard.

DH34Phan · Post #15 » by **DH34Phan** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:30 am

ReddManBogieMan wrote:Sessions
Mayo
Mason
Yi
Bogut

Practically 3 rookies (Sessions, Yi and Mayo), a below average SF in Mason, and a good center in Bogut doesn't scream good team to me.

Get some real talent in here.

Trade Yi/Redd/Gadz for Brand/Mobley.

Trade Mo and CV for Childress (S&T) and Pachulia.

Draft Mayo and Richard Hendrix.

Mayo/ Sessions
Childress/ Bell/ Mobley
Mason/ Simmons
Brand/ Hendrix
Bogut/ Pachulia

Fill out the rosters with MLE, veteran minimums and undrafted FAs.

That team, IMO, would be very good defensively, and potent offensively.

skones · Post #16 » by **skones** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:31 am

If we don't get Rose, Mayo's my choice. If not him, then we trade down, UNLESS Batum really impresses.

MikeIsGood · Post #17 » by **MikeIsGood** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:13 am

Wade-A-Holic wrote:There are things about Mayo that I like more than Rose, actually.

Okay.

He's bigger. He's better and more polished defensively (although Rose isn't bad). While he has some turnover issues, his court vision and passing skills are better. With some more polish I think he'll be somewhere between Chauncey Billups and Brandon Roy, which is fine by me.

No.

Post #18 » by **Wade-A-Holic** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:38 am

ReddManBogieMan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I agree, but I think the Sonics and the Knicks would be locks for Mayo at #3-4 though, IMO.

It would be a real shame to see Mayo in a Knicks uniform.

ReddManBogieMan · Post #19 » by **ReddManBogieMan** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:47 am

DH34Phan wrote:
ReddManBogieMan wrote:Sessions
Mayo
Mason
Yi
Bogut

Practically 3 rookies (Sessions, Yi and Mayo), a below average SF in Mason, and a good center in Bogut doesn't scream good team to me.

Get some real talent in here.

Trade Yi/Redd/Gadz for Brand/Mobley.

Trade Mo and CV for Childress (S&T) and Pachulia.

Draft Mayo and Richard Hendrix.

Mayo/ Sessions
Childress/ Bell/ Mobley
Mason/ Simmons
Brand/ Hendrix
Bogut/ Pachulia

Fill out the rosters with MLE, veteran minimums and undrafted FAs.

That team, IMO, would be very good defensively, and potent offensively.

Yeah you could do something like that but a back court with Sessions and Mayo could be great not before long. I didn't really feel inspired to include trade scenarios for Mo and Redd, because my main thought was Sessions and Mayo (instead of Mo and Mike). Obviously I would like to get an athletic wing at SF that could be an upgrade, but we would have to get one through trades, and I don't have any in mind right now.