My Offseason Plan (possible trades)

[Neapolitan Buck]

I am going to post a list of possible moves I thought about and I'd like to hear what you think about the possibility this teams (or players) would accept these deals. Here are some moves:

* Sign Childress with MLE.

*Sign Jarvis Hayes AND Chuck Hayes using our MLE, or using bi-annual exeption for one of them and part of MLE for the other, using the rest of MLE for Diop/Duhon/Gomes/Nachbar/Fred Jones/others.

*Dan Gadzuric to Memphis for Jason Collins.

*Bobby Simmons (or Bobby and 2nd round pick or Simmons and Ruffin s &t or something similar) to Seattle for Johan Petro and Donyell Marshall.

*Bobby Simmons to Minnesota for Antoine Walker.

*Desmond Mason and 2nd round pick to Atlanta for Josh Childress.

*Charlie Bell to NJ for Nachbar s&t

*Charlie Bell for Chucky Atkins.

* Mo, CV and 7th for Okafor and Felton.

Behind every of this moves there is a basketball logic, some are moves to improve the team, some other are only to get salary cap relief. I'd like to know your thoughts on the possibility this deals could be accepted.

Thank you anticipately for the answers.

[Matches Malone]

The only player that I like from your entire list is Childress. It's going to take a lot more than the MLE or Desmond and a 2nd, to grab him though.

[Neapolitan Buck]

I know there are a lot of player tht aren't that good in that list, but Collins, Atkins, Marshall are expirers (2008/9 is their last contract year) and Walker has a team option on his contract so we can waive him without buying him out after next year; so we pay 9,320,000 dollars and not 9,920,000+10,560,000.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a Bogut/Okafor/Childress frontcourt? It is very good defensively, plus we'd have Yi coming off the bench. I have a real plan for this offseason, but I'm working on the details before posting it. I would have liked to know what you thought about this trades and if similar trade purposes would have been accepted around the league.

[James1980]

* Mo, CV and 7th for Okafor and Felton.

If that's really available, sign me up.

[Wade-A-Holic]

The only player that I like from your entire list is Childress. It's going to take a lot more than the MLE or Desmond and a 2nd, to grab him though.

Childress isn't THAT good. Giving him the full MLE with moderate increases every year is too much for him. The Bucks are done over-spending on wing players.

[conleyorbust]

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Childress isn't THAT good. Giving him the full MLE with moderate increases every year is too much for him. The Bucks are done over-spending on wing players.

I can give a little perspective as a Hawks fan.

For one its hard to evaluate Hawks' players because our coaching staff is a little screwy. This season Chil has been almost entirely an offensive player. He is great in transition, occasionally to the detriment of our defense/rebounding but that might be due to coaching. I mean he really is great in transition. He is a great finisher around the net on the whole but he isn't a slasher, more of a finisher.

In the half court he hangs out near the basket along the baseline and waits until someone draws a double or there is an offensive rebound (he's great at grabbing those), he has a high bball IQ and knows how to get open and finish from there. He never takes jumpers which will absolutely kill your spacing unless you have a frontcourt player who can hit from deep - if you do Childress will be a HUGE asset. He can handle the ball a little and he is very unselfish but he isn't a playmaker. He only creates his own shot when he catches the ball and his defender is off balance, he will then slash. Again, he very rarely shoots it because his shot is so low and slow that it can get messed up. when he does shoot it (rarely) he can actually be pretty accurate. A couple seasons ago he shot really well from 3.

On defense he has been terrible this season. In the past he was decent but for whatever reason he is often matched up against smaller players who will absolutely murder him because he doesn't move well laterally. As good of an offensive rebounder as he is, he is an equally bad defensive rebounder. In the past he has been a solid defender, or at least a guy who would put in effort. I'm not sure what to make of it, I'd say it is partially a fluke season on D for him.

So on the whole Chil is a fantastic role player IF you don't need him to be a shooter or lock-down defender. He will NEVER cause chemistry problems because he is a) a really nice guy and b) and easy guy to play with because he doesn't ask for shots.

Hope that unsolicited info helps.

[Neapolitan Buck]

Thank you conleyorbust we really appreciated it.

I have not seen many Hawks' games (I believe I'm going to see them in the playoffs) so I can't have a complete perspective but I believed that the lack of defense was more a team problem; as a team the Hawks' seemed to be soft to focus on the offensive side of the ball.

[drew881]

I really don't think we should trade Simmons. He has 2 years left, which really only means one bad year left. The year after he becomes a valuable trading commodity. One that could get us a good player in a midseason trade (remember, we can't lure anyone via free agency, so expirings are needed).

Next year is possibly going to be an evaluation year, with the only major move being maybe dumping Mo Williams. Yi and Bogut, possibly sessions will develop more, and the year after we can unload Bobby and make a push.

If there is anyone we need to dump immediately, its Gadzuric. Three years is still a lot left. I think a running team could still be pursuaded to take him, albeit packaged with another player (Mo+Gadz to miami maybe)

[conleyorbust]

Thank you conleyorbust we really appreciated it.

I have not seen many Hawks' games (I believe I'm going to see them in the playoffs) so I can't have a complete perspective but I believed that the lack of defense was more a team problem; as a team the Hawks' seemed to be soft to focus on the offensive side of the ball.

It was the opposite before the Bibby trade. We were really awful on offense but played pretty tight D most games.

[Neapolitan Buck]

I'd trade Simmons only after a trade like the one I wrote above: Mo+CV+7th for Felton+Okafor. So we'd need space to re-sign Bogut Emeka and Felton. I developed a scenario that gave us a young core of 8-10 players to develop into a well-oiled machine, a team. I hope to define the details by tomorrow so I will post it completely. I needed to know if an NBA GM would have accepted similar trades.

[Baddy Chuck]

I am going to post a list of possible moves I thought about and I'd like to hear what you think about the possibility this teams (or players) would accept these deals. Here are some moves:

* Sign Childress with MLE.

*Sign Jarvis Hayes AND Chuck Hayes using our MLE, or using bi-annual exeption for one of them and part of MLE for the other, using the rest of MLE for Diop/Duhon/Gomes/Nachbar/Fred Jones/others.

*Dan Gadzuric to Memphis for Jason Collins.

*Bobby Simmons (or Bobby and 2nd round pick or Simmons and Ruffin s &t or something similar) to Seattle for Johan Petro and Donyell Marshall.

*Bobby Simmons to Minnesota for Antoine Walker.

*Desmond Mason and 2nd round pick to Atlanta for Josh Childress.

*Charlie Bell to NJ for Nachbar s&t

*Charlie Bell for Chucky Atkins.

* Mo, CV and 7th for Okafor and Felton.

Behind every of this moves there is a basketball logic, some are moves to improve the team, some other are only to get salary cap relief. I'd like to know your thoughts on the possibility this deals could be accepted.

Thank you anticipately for the answers.

1. Wouldnt mind
2. Jarvis, No. CHuck signed an extension I believe. None of those players other then maybe Nachbar and Jones would sign for that little and they suck
3. We wish
4. We wish
5. I dunno but Im going to go with, we wish
6. No
7. Id have no problems, doubt Nggets want to add the $
8. We wish

[AussieBuck]

I'd trade Simmons only after a trade like the one I wrote above: Mo+CV+7th for Felton+Okafor. So we'd need space to re-sign Bogut Emeka and Felton. I developed a scenario that gave us a young core of 8-10 players to develop into a well-oiled machine, a team. I hope to define the details by tomorrow so I will post it completely. I needed to know if an NBA GM would have accepted similar trades.

I see Felton as Mo without the killer jumpshot. Am I mistaken?

[BigSlam]

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It wouldn't be.

[Neapolitan Buck]

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I see Felton as Mo without the killer jumpshot. Am I mistaken?

He is a better passer, and passes more than him. This is what I want from our PG, with Bogut and Redd as our inside-outside threat on offense, they need fewer shots and more dishes. For the defense, I was thinking about Bogut/Okafor/Childress frontcourt that is pretty good at that side; Andrew and Emeka could combine for 32/24/4 blks.

[Neapolitan Buck]

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It wouldn't be.

With all the cap space you have and you would have for the years to come (you should not re-sign Felton and Emeka), you could go for the big pieces in the free agent market, plusyou have 7th and 8th pick (before the lottery).

Charlotte after the trade in my mind:

Love/Mohammed/Diop?
Brand/CV/Davidson
Wallace/CV/Dudley
Richardson/Mo Williams/Carroll
Mo Williams/ DJ Augustin/McInnis

[BigSlam]

Big name FA's aren't going to want to sign with a small market team that is only a couple of years old.

Your trade makes no sense for the Bobcats now or for the future and because of that, it wouldn't be accepted.