Anything discussed regarding a new facility?

th87 · Post #1 » by **th87** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:42 am

With the Sonics impending move, there is a very real possibility that we could be next, if Kohl decides to sell the team. Either way, he won't own the team forever.

So what needs to be done?

What are the usual ways through which money can be raised?

What's stopping that from happening?

I'm guessing a competitive facility would cost around $500 million. How much would naming rights bring in? How much of a tax increase would be required?

Post #2 » by **MickeyDavis** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:37 pm

You can forget about a tax increase, that's NOT going to happen. There are a lot of people still ticked off about the Miller Park tax.

It's going to take a visionary business person who understands that a new building should be part of a larger entertainment complex. There will need to be some government leadership as well but we don't have that around here.

As much bashing as Kohl gets around here (deservedly so) he has never threatened to move the team. And unfortunately that may be the only way to get something done.

But until the team starts winning no one is even going to talk about a new building.

NeedsMoreCheese · Post #3 » by **NeedsMoreCheese** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:43 pm

th87 wrote:With the Sonics impending move, there is a very real possibility that we could be next, if Kohl decides to sell the team. Either way, he won't own the team forever.

So what needs to be done?

What are the usual ways through which money can be raised?

What's stopping that from happening?

I'm guessing a competitive facility would cost around $500 million. How much would naming rights bring in? How much of a tax increase would be required?

Herb Kohl is a lying douche.

Whoever is actually in charge of doing anything politically in Milwaukee are incompetant douches.

And the most important reason

Herb Kohl is a lying douche.

Post #4 » by **MickeyDavis** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:52 pm

Kohl will not get a new building while he is still owner without chipping in a big chunk of his own money, which he won't do. Since he forked over $25 million to UW for their building it would be expected he would do the same for the Bucks. But he won't.

A new building plan won't happen until there is an ownership change.

The sooner the better.

charlesbarkley · Post #5 » by **charlesbarkley** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:47 pm

What's wrong with the Bradley Center again?

Andrew34r · Post #6 » by **Andrew34r** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:52 pm

charlesbarkley wrote:What's wrong with the Bradley Center again?

For starters its a hockey arena...thats pretty hard to overcome by itself.

EastSideBucksFan · Post #7 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:10 pm

charlesbarkley wrote:What's wrong with the Bradley Center again?

Secondly, we don't own it

Tug0bwerdna · Post #8 » by **Tug0bwerdna** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:20 pm

Harley-Davidson Arena? Attach an arena to the new museum going up.

Bucyrus Center? One of the most successful Milwaukee based companies wants their name to be more recognized.

Kerb Hohl · Post #9 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:23 pm

Didn't Potowatami offer to fund a new arena as long as they were able to use the BC or the new arena as an entertainment area for them? I'm fuzzy on the details but I still can't see why that was such a bad idea.

Andrew34r · Post #10 » by **Andrew34r** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:27 pm

CharlosVllnueva wrote:Didn't Potowatami offer to fund a new arena as long as they were able to use the BC or the new arena as an entertainment area for them? I'm fuzzy on the details but I still can't see why that was such a bad idea.

Kerb Hohl · Post #11 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:37 pm

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Haha, right.

th87 · Post #12 » by **th87** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:06 am

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I hope that's not really the problem. What's the problem with a Casino funding an arena? Does that automatically mean that people are going to start betting on basketball?

th87 · Post #13 » by **th87** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:09 am

Kohl Is A Mome wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Herb Kohl is a lying douche.

Whoever is actually in charge of doing anything politically in Milwaukee are incompetant douches.

And the most important reason

Herb Kohl is a lying douche.

I'm slow tonight - what's he lying about?

th87 · Post #14 » by **th87** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:10 am

MickeyDavis wrote:You can forget about a tax increase, that's NOT going to happen. There are a lot of people still ticked off about the Miller Park tax.

It's going to take a visionary business person who understands that a new building should be part of a larger entertainment complex. There will need to be some government leadership as well but we don't have that around here.

As much bashing as Kohl gets around here (deservedly so) he has never threatened to move the team. And unfortunately that may be the only way to get something done.

But until the team starts winning no one is even going to talk about a new building.

I wasn't here for the Miller Park taxation - what was the tax increase? Wasn't it like a tenth of a percent? Is that significant enough to make ANY difference in our daily lives?

aboveAverage · Post #15 » by **aboveAverage** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:38 am

th87 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I wasn't here for the Miller Park taxation - what was the tax increase? Wasn't it like a tenth of a percent? Is that significant enough to make ANY difference in our daily lives?

No, but you'd be surprised how many people would not pay 1/10th of one cent to help fund a new arena. People are just stingy.

BrewCityBBQ · Post #16 » by **BrewCityBBQ** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:00 am

aboveAverage wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

No, but you'd be surprised how many people would not pay 1/10th of one cent to help fund a new arena. People are just stingy.

Exactly, people that are still pissed about that need to get over it. Miller Park has been great for the city of Milwaukee and the fans of the Brewers. I would gladly pay tax money to fund a new arena for the Bucks.