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Re: ATL - Suns Implode 

Post#681 » by rilamann » Sat May 21, 2022 3:48 am

One thing that takes a little sting out of us not being in the ECF, TNT has the WCF this season lol.
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Re: ATL - Suns Implode 

Post#682 » by greekbuck34 » Sat May 21, 2022 3:55 am

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greekbuck34 wrote:It feels like 80% of the Warriors points were with Doncic as the closest defender. They are attacking him relentlessly.


This is exactly why I just can't view guys like Luka and Jokic in the same tier as Giannis. Even if his offensive brilliance isn't as versatile, you're never going to exploit Giannis on defense. You can only hope that he tires himself out.


Not at those two players levels obviously but you put Giannis in space and through screens and he's in trouble. Still remember Nurse and Siakim killing him in the one game he played against them.


Taking pullup jumpers with Giannis hunting you or being able to recover on you from nowhere anyway is a bit different than scoring easy layups at the rim or just blow by Luka/Jokic for easy lay ups at the rim.

Giannis can get stuck on a screen and still contest the shot with his arm, the player could just drive in the paint and still get blocked by Giannis from behind. And that's his only weakness. 1v1 he can defend and or block basically anyone in the league if he wants to waste energy and all the players and coaches know what's the real deal.

Nobody will ever target Giannis, unless he wants to try to get him in foul trouble(it always works in our favour because they miss 9 shots in a row just to get 1 foul) or because he wants to take the challenge and try to score on a DPOY.

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Re: ATL - Suns Implode 

Post#683 » by CountMe3Outs » Sat May 21, 2022 4:23 am

Ahhh, the good o' days...



Never saw the LA fans erupt like that at the Inglewood Forum.
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Re: ATL - Suns Implode 

Post#684 » by Perseus1966 » Sat May 21, 2022 4:37 am

Wnba level wfc and junior high officiating,good job nba!
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Re: ATL - Suns Implode 

Post#685 » by Coach Carter » Sat May 21, 2022 4:41 am

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Coach Carter wrote:Curry can't do this against the boston d.

I'd wager he can, he's pretty good.


I don't mean shooting the 3. I mean getting into the paint.
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Post#686 » by blazza18 » Sat May 21, 2022 4:54 am

greekbuck34 wrote:Taking pullup jumpers with Giannis hunting you or being able to recover on you from nowhere anyway is a bit different than scoring easy layups at the rim or just blow by Luka/Jokic for easy lay ups at the rim.

Giannis can get stuck on a screen and still contest the shot with his arm, the player could just drive in the paint and still get blocked by Giannis from behind. And that's his only weakness. 1v1 he can defend and or block basically anyone in the league if he wants to waste energy and all the players and coaches know what's the real deal.

Nobody will ever target Giannis, unless he wants to try to get him in foul trouble(it always works in our favour because they miss 9 shots in a row just to get 1 foul) or because he wants to take the challenge and try to score on a DPOY.



Think you're underplaying how bad he gets on screens and how distracted he gets off ball. He saves a ton of baskets being who he is but there are also a ton of breakdowns stemming from him making mistakes too.

Teams should go at him more because he is foul prone and makes dumb decisions all the time. Yea his length will bother players like always but the reward of getting him out of the game should outweigh some risk.
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Re: ATL - Suns Implode 

Post#687 » by skones » Sat May 21, 2022 5:51 am

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I wouldn't go that far, but yeh we could use him.


More size, more length, more off the bounce than you'd think. Porter is Middleton on his first big deal pre-cap spike, but looking towards cap spike. Having him shadow Tatum or Brown for that matter would have been an absolutely enormous boon.
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Re: ATL - Suns Implode 

Post#688 » by Coach Carter » Sat May 21, 2022 6:32 am

Shame we lost, Giannis would absolutely terrorise mavs/warriors.
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Re: ATL - Suns Implode 

Post#689 » by stellation » Sat May 21, 2022 6:42 am

CountMe3Outs wrote:Ahhh, the good o' days...



Never saw the LA fans erupt like that at the Inglewood Forum.

My favourite thing about this is it's an all time example of a hard foul, but it's Worthy that shoves Kurt the hardest after the altercation, Bird that helps him up and he and McHale are talking to each other with nobody in between within seconds of it all happening.
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Post#690 » by Plossum » Sat May 21, 2022 7:29 am

Damn I thought the Mavs actually played pretty well and still couldn’t get the win. Great game. Looney was so good.
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Re: ATL - Suns Implode 

Post#691 » by greekbuck34 » Sat May 21, 2022 11:25 am

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greekbuck34 wrote:Taking pullup jumpers with Giannis hunting you or being able to recover on you from nowhere anyway is a bit different than scoring easy layups at the rim or just blow by Luka/Jokic for easy lay ups at the rim.

Giannis can get stuck on a screen and still contest the shot with his arm, the player could just drive in the paint and still get blocked by Giannis from behind. And that's his only weakness. 1v1 he can defend and or block basically anyone in the league if he wants to waste energy and all the players and coaches know what's the real deal.

Nobody will ever target Giannis, unless he wants to try to get him in foul trouble(it always works in our favour because they miss 9 shots in a row just to get 1 foul) or because he wants to take the challenge and try to score on a DPOY.



Think you're underplaying how bad he gets on screens and how distracted he gets off ball. He saves a ton of baskets being who he is but there are also a ton of breakdowns stemming from him making mistakes too.

Teams should go at him more because he is foul prone and makes dumb decisions all the time. Yea his length will bother players like always but the reward of getting him out of the game should outweigh some risk.


I doesn't work like that. Giannis foul trouble come mainly from charges/flops. He is extremely good in contesting shots without fouling, he doesn't reach as much when he is close to foul trouble, you can't get him in the air because he can contest jumpshots without jumping most of the time. Attacking Giannis 1v1 or as the rim protector in hopes that he will get a foul almost never works. The Bulls and the Celtics tried it many times and failed. The best way to get him in foul trouble is to force him 1v1 at the post and flop at first contact.
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Re: ATL - Suns Implode 

Post#692 » by mattg » Sat May 21, 2022 9:01 pm

greekbuck34 wrote:
blazza18 wrote:
greekbuck34 wrote:Taking pullup jumpers with Giannis hunting you or being able to recover on you from nowhere anyway is a bit different than scoring easy layups at the rim or just blow by Luka/Jokic for easy lay ups at the rim.

Giannis can get stuck on a screen and still contest the shot with his arm, the player could just drive in the paint and still get blocked by Giannis from behind. And that's his only weakness. 1v1 he can defend and or block basically anyone in the league if he wants to waste energy and all the players and coaches know what's the real deal.

Nobody will ever target Giannis, unless he wants to try to get him in foul trouble(it always works in our favour because they miss 9 shots in a row just to get 1 foul) or because he wants to take the challenge and try to score on a DPOY.



Think you're underplaying how bad he gets on screens and how distracted he gets off ball. He saves a ton of baskets being who he is but there are also a ton of breakdowns stemming from him making mistakes too.

Teams should go at him more because he is foul prone and makes dumb decisions all the time. Yea his length will bother players like always but the reward of getting him out of the game should outweigh some risk.


I doesn't work like that. Giannis foul trouble come mainly from charges/flops. He is extremely good in contesting shots without fouling, he doesn't reach as much when he is close to foul trouble, you can't get him in the air because he can contest jumpshots without jumping most of the time. Attacking Giannis 1v1 or as the rim protector in hopes that he will get a foul almost never works. The Bulls and the Celtics tried it many times and failed. The best way to get him in foul trouble is to force him 1v1 at the post and flop at first contact.

Of course most of Giannis' foul issue come from offensive issue. That's the entire point you're missing though. Because Giannis plays with literally no regard to his foul situation, he routinely gets himself into foul issues strictly because of his bad decision making on offense. If teams attacked him more defensively, even though they would be unsuccessful the vast majority of the time, he is bound to pick up a foul here and there...and that's enough to get him out of the game because he will pick up braindead fouls on the other end.
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Re: ATL - Suns Implode 

Post#693 » by rilamann » Sun May 22, 2022 12:37 am

One good thing if the Celtics end up winning it all is that it will probably motivate the hell out of the Bucks, especially Giannis.

Imagine Giannis watching the Celtics win it all knowing that he had them on the ropes. If the Celtics win it all, I am deff predicting Giannis wins MVP next season.
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Post#694 » by Matches Malone » Sun May 22, 2022 12:50 am

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Re: ATL - Suns Implode 

Post#695 » by CharityStripe34 » Sun May 22, 2022 12:58 am

rilamann wrote:One good thing if the Celtics end up winning it all is that it will probably motivate the hell out of the Bucks, especially Giannis.

Imagine Giannis watching the Celtics win it all knowing that he had them on the ropes. If the Celtics win it all, I am deff predicting Giannis wins MVP next season.
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Post#696 » by blazza18 » Sun May 22, 2022 1:09 am

JVG is right with those delay of game calls. They're ridiculous and waste more time than a player taping the ball back.
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Post#697 » by Baddy Chuck » Sun May 22, 2022 1:10 am

Basketball gods really out here swinging today because of paulpressey's Spo comments.
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Post#698 » by benultimate » Sun May 22, 2022 1:13 am

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Post#699 » by Antinomy » Sun May 22, 2022 1:14 am

It annoys me so much knowing we’ll have to go through another 82 games just have a chance at a title next year — barring someone slipping on a wet spot & being out for the whole playoffs.

It’s even worse knowing we’d have beaten both of these teams being healthy.

Hopefully GS wins. I’ll be damned if Boston wins.
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Post#700 » by thomchatt3rton » Sun May 22, 2022 1:17 am

The stuff MIA is running to get Bam looks is great.


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