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Parker
47
16%
Wiggins
99
33%
Embiid
124
41%
Exum
25
8%
Smart
1
0%
Lavine
1
0%
Randle
2
1%
Other
0
No votes
Gordon
1
0%
Saric
1
0%
 
Total votes: 301

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Post#101 » by Nebula1 » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:35 am

If the Bucks have a shot at Wiggins and pass on him for any other player..

Wiggins is the prize.
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Post#102 » by hakjak » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:37 am

It only took into Wiggins 14th game to do something that impressed me. It's about time.
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Post#103 » by DanoMac » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:43 am

TroyD92 wrote:Does Wiggins just not look confident to anyone else? Something about his body language..


I agree with this. He's not driving into the lane. He's not taking advantage of the defender. Too passive. But you and no one else can deny that the talent is there. Maybe it's coaching, maybe it's growing, maybe it's maturity. But my God, the basketball talent is all there. Flashes of it show every game.
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Post#104 » by TroyD92 » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:45 am

DanoMac wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:Does Wiggins just not look confident to anyone else? Something about his body language..


I agree with this. He's not driving into the lane. He's not taking advantage of the defender. Too passive. But you and no one else can deny that the talent is there. Maybe it's coaching, maybe it's growing, maybe it's maturity. But my God, the basketball talent is all there. Flashes of it show every game.


All I was going to say was I wouldn't be surprised if he has a few big games back to back and he just explodes.
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Post#105 » by Nebula1 » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:45 am

DanoMac wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:Does Wiggins just not look confident to anyone else? Something about his body language..


I agree with this. He's not driving into the lane. He's not taking advantage of the defender. Too passive. But you and no one else can deny that the talent is there. Maybe it's coaching, maybe it's growing, maybe it's maturity. But my God, the basketball talent is all there. Flashes of it show every game.


Harden was accused of this too.
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Post#106 » by breakchains » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:50 am

I started the game late. Did they say why Embiid has the swollen eye?
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Post#107 » by bizarro » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:53 am

Everyone knows where I stand with my top end...SO, i'll focus on our 2nd round selections. Here are players that seriously intrigue me:


(1) Chris Walker
(2) Bogdan Bogdanovic
(3) Boris Dallo
(4) Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
(5) Nick Stauskas
(6) Kyle Anderson
(7) Kaleb Tarczekwsi
(8) Khem Birch
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Post#108 » by DanoMac » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:54 am

Nebula1 wrote:
DanoMac wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:Does Wiggins just not look confident to anyone else? Something about his body language..


I agree with this. He's not driving into the lane. He's not taking advantage of the defender. Too passive. But you and no one else can deny that the talent is there. Maybe it's coaching, maybe it's growing, maybe it's maturity. But my God, the basketball talent is all there. Flashes of it show every game.


Harden was accused of this too.


Like I said, Derrick Rose averaged 14.9 PPG and 4.7 APG with a .560 TS% his freshman year. That COUNTS the tournament.

Wiggins is averaging 15.8 PPG and and 5.4 RPG with a .561 TS% right now.

Just because he's not dominating (on a very skilled Kansas team) doesn't mean ****.
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Post#109 » by Nebula1 » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:00 am

DanoMac wrote:Like I said, Derrick Rose averaged 14.9 PPG and 4.7 APG with a .560 TS% his freshman year. That COUNTS the tournament.

Wiggins is averaging 15.8 PPG and and 5.4 RPG with a .561 TS% right now.

Just because he's not dominating (on a very skilled Kansas team) doesn't mean ****.


I totally agree. Obviously you want to see decent numbers but it's not an ultimate determination.

There are some good players in this draft but I think Wiggins is the clear favorite and the Bucks best not pass on him. I'm incredibly excited about the opportunity to add this guy to the roster but the draft is far away.
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Post#110 » by Nebula1 » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:04 am

Also great to see selden have a bit of a break out game.
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Post#111 » by randy84 » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:06 am

breakchains wrote:I started the game late. Did they say why Embiid has the swollen eye?


Got hit in the eye in practice. That is why he is rockin' the Jabbar throwback look.
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Post#112 » by breakchains » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:06 am

This Parker possibly going on a mission thing and the thought of Embiid returning is a serious bummer. Would basically make this draft like most others, where there is one true blue chipper, and at best, the Bucks would have a 25% chance at getting it. :(
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Post#113 » by TroyD92 » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:07 am

breakchains wrote:This Parker possibly going on a mission thing and the thought of Embiid returning is a serious bummer. Would basically make this draft like most others, where there is one true blue chipper, and at best, the Bucks would have a 25% chance at getting it. :(


They'll see that guaranteed money and wise up real quick.
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Post#114 » by mlloyd10 » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:11 am

Anybody know anything about Tyler Ennis? I see him on the freshman watch now on ESPN. Is he worth a look at?
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Post#115 » by mattg » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:12 am

bizarro wrote:Everyone knows where I stand with my top end...SO, i'll focus on our 2nd round selections. Here are players that seriously intrigue me:


(1) Chris Walker
(2) Bogdan Bogdanovic
(3) Boris Dallo
(4) Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
(5) Nick Stauskas
(6) Kyle Anderson
(7) Kaleb Tarczekwsi
(8) Khem Birch

Curious, what intrigues about walker? He's an insane athlete but that's literally the only thing he is. No skills, no instincts, no clue how to play the game whatsoever. If he declares I can't see him sticking in the nba let alone making a team. Anderson I feel like goes in the mid late first round since he's shown he can shoot this year. I'm a fan of 2, 4, 5, and 8 on your list though. Other guys I like are Cory Jefferson, Okaro White, and both CJ fair and Wilcox.
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Post#116 » by breakchains » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:17 am

Definitely concerned about Randle's wingspan. It had been seeming small to me, and then I read an article recently which basically just talked about that. It's pretty evident when you watch him.
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Post#117 » by engelmartin » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:19 am

It's killing me not having more info to peruse about Exum. Is he going to play ANY meaningful games before the draft? Just like Giannis, I think he'll slip due to quality of competition/lack of scrutiny.

Who's the best player with the worst wingspan? David Lee comes to mind immediately.

Derrick Rose has a 6 "7 wingspan, not much considering his prototypical size for the PG position.
MCW also has not-much-of-a-wingspan (also 6"7).

Food for thought, Marcus Smart was measured with a 6 "8 wingspan last year.
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Post#118 » by bizarro » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:21 am

mattg wrote:
bizarro wrote:Everyone knows where I stand with my top end...SO, i'll focus on our 2nd round selections. Here are players that seriously intrigue me:


(1) Chris Walker
(2) Bogdan Bogdanovic
(3) Boris Dallo
(4) Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
(5) Nick Stauskas
(6) Kyle Anderson
(7) Kaleb Tarczekwsi
(8) Khem Birch

Curious, what intrigues about walker? He's an insane athlete but that's literally the only thing he is. No skills, no instincts, no clue how to play the game whatsoever. If he declares I can't see him sticking in the nba let alone making a team. Anderson I feel like goes in the mid late first round since he's shown he can shoot this year. I'm a fan of 2, 4, 5, and 8 on your list though. Other guys I like are Cory Jefferson, Okaro White, and both CJ fair and Wilcox.


I should have been clear: The numbers aren't in order. Precisely what intrigues me about Walker is his size and athleticism. He is a physical body every NBA team can benefit from. Really, right now I see him as a rotational guy who comes in and gives you defense, blocks, transition points etc. Maybe the feel comes over time...maybe it doesn't. But, if he's there mid 2nd round I consider giving him a look.

EDIT: And, I would add...on that list the most intriguing players to me are definitively Dallo, Bogdanovic, Hollis-Jefferson, Stauskas, and Birch
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Post#119 » by No-Man » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:23 am

bizarro wrote:Everyone knows where I stand with my top end...SO, i'll focus on our 2nd round selections. Here are players that seriously intrigue me:


(1) Chris Walker
(2) Bogdan Bogdanovic
(3) Boris Dallo
(4) Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
(5) Nick Stauskas
(6) Kyle Anderson
(7) Kaleb Tarczekwsi
(8) Khem Birch


Walker, Dallo and Hollis-Jefferson are likely NOT declaring.
Hollis-Jefferson will be a lock for the top20 if he does.
Stauskas probably will stay also.
Anderson will go top20.
Tarczewski is awful, poor man's Biedrins, and I'm not kidding.
Birch is realistic and interesting, just not for Milwaukee with the personel you already have.

It will depend on the 1st pick, but in the best case, if I get Parker with my 1st, I will love to grab Napier with my 2nd, If I draft Exum with my 1st, I will get Hairston.

Anyway, if the Bucks end up with the 31st pick and PJ Hairston is available, is a no-brainer, the Bucks need high ceiling player, Hairston will the guy with the hhighest ceiling that could be available there,not even close, it's a no-brainer.
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Post#120 » by breakchains » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:23 am

Wiggins has that smooth explosiveness that is just so appealing. Sort of like Cordarelle Patterson's in football. It's explosion that just glides. His physical attributes are undeniable.

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