Official #2 Pick Thread - DRAFT WEEK - Ford: Wiggins at #2

Zeezprah · Post #101 » by **Zeezprah** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:54 pm

too funny that some people think parker tanked his workout to get to milwaukee.

times they are a changin

Turk Nowitzki · Post #102 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:55 pm

I remember when Dan Gilbert was in the running to buy the Brewers. We dodged a bullet there.

M-C-G · Post #103 » by **M-C-G** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:04 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:I had thought this (below) was a rumor that we started here. But evidently is the truth.

I have to admit, I do like the fact this guy wants to be here. Speaks volumes as to organizational culture change.

Chad Ford: One source said he thought Parker "tanked" the workout.

Why? A source says he strongly prefers to play in Milwaukee. The Cavs appear to be aware of this. "Jabari wasn't himself," one source said. "It was clear we weren't his first option."

So one one hand, that is amazing.

On the other hand, I find it hard to believe.

On the third hand, as a Parker guy, between this, the mid season slump as documented in that sports illustrated article, it sounds like mentally Parker seems to get weak at times.

That being said, these guys have been training, traveling around, doing visits, etc. Not surprised to hear the process could wear some of these guys down, but I just hope there isn't something else there.

Parker seems to be very dependent, but then I guess you have to remember he is just a kid. Let's hope we have someone that can mentor him or that he can bond with to fill that void.

Here is an idea, let's see if that Coach K guy is looking for a new job!!

mcfromage · Post #104 » by **mcfromage** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:06 pm

Dean on Draft finally has some new, analytics heavy takes on the international guys. He's very high on Exum, Nurkic and, interestingly, Clint Capela. Less so on Saric. Worth a read...

http://deanondraft.com/

Dario Saric
I don’t have much to say about Saric. His translated stats are solid but not great as they put him 20th in the WARP rankings. That’s roughly what I anticipated, and outside of his 6’10″ height he doesn’t have a single tool that is average or better. I simply don’t see how he has the physical package to thrive as a primary ball handler in the NBA. The scouting narrative is that he has a virtuoso passing ability that gives him unique upside, which doesn’t strike me as quite enough to override his deficiencies. I could see him being a Boris Diaw stretch 4 type who can move the ball and occasionally knock down 3′s or create a little of his own offense. Or he could be an Evan Turner who cannot translate his ball dominant ways to the NBA as he faces tougher defenses. He seems like a fine flier in the late 1st round, but I don’t see how he’s worth a gamble in the lottery. It appears that Nate Duncan agrees with my assessment, which is enough to make me feel comfortable that I’m not missing any details of integral importance with my assessment from afar.

Even though Saric is hyped as the 2nd best international prospect in this class, I believe he’s only the 6th or 7th best in the class.

JayMKE · Post #105 » by **JayMKE** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:07 pm

I wonder if Coach Woj at Marquette factors in at all with Jabari

msiris · Post #106 » by **msiris** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:08 pm

Don't count on Wiggins yet. Why would the Cavs leak this info out when they know that Philly might be interested in trading up in order to get Wiggins. Lots of smoke in the air.

Zeezprah · Post #107 » by **Zeezprah** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:08 pm

JayMKE wrote:I wonder if Coach Woj at Marquette factors in at all with Jabari

gotta imagine it's a huge plus. basically one of his mentors right there with him.

SpottedBadger · Post #108 » by **SpottedBadger** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:10 pm

JayMKE wrote:I wonder if Coach Woj at Marquette factors in at all with Jabari

How would that at all play a factor?

Treebeard · Post #109 » by **Treebeard** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:11 pm

JayMKE wrote:I wonder if Coach Woj at Marquette factors in at all with Jabari

That made me think of David Blatt vs Larry Drew(as of today)

PkrsBcksGphsMqt · Post #110 » by **PkrsBcksGphsMqt** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:11 pm

JayMKE wrote:I wonder if Coach Woj at Marquette factors in at all with Jabari

Probably not a significant factor, but I'm sure it's come up in conversations with Woj (and other Duke coaches).

Turk Nowitzki · Post #111 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:13 pm

SpottedBadger wrote:
JayMKE wrote:I wonder if Coach Woj at Marquette factors in at all with Jabari

How would that at all play a factor?

How could it not?

LarryHarris · Post #112 » by **LarryHarris** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:14 pm

If we're worried about Jabari's weight now, imagine what will happen once Henson introduces him to Chipolte!

SpottedBadger · Post #113 » by **SpottedBadger** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:17 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:
SpottedBadger wrote:
JayMKE wrote:I wonder if Coach Woj at Marquette factors in at all with Jabari

How would that at all play a factor?

How could it not?

Because Jabari Parker played one year at Duke. He was recruited by Chris Collins. I'm sure he has a good relationship with Wojo, but I' find it hard to believe that Jabari would tank a workout and prefer MKE because an assistant coach happens to live in the area.

Plus, Wojo has his own program to run and Jabari will be a professional basketball player traveling from city to city. If Jabari prefers to play in Milwaukee, I think it has to do with it being an hour and a half away from his hometown more than living in the same city as a former assistant coach of his.

Bfinkish · Post #114 » by **Bfinkish** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:22 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:Cant believe an alpha dog leader like Parker would tank a workout. Wouldn't set a good precedent.

It's actually a smart move...

Bfinkish · Post #115 » by **Bfinkish** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:25 pm

JayMKE wrote:Gilbert's comic sans letter still makes me laugh to this day

PedroGrande · Post #116 » by **PedroGrande** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:26 pm

I dont believe Parker tanked his workout but just the fact that some people (not bucks fans) believe he did because he would rather go to Mil is amazing lol

JayMKE · Post #117 » by **JayMKE** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:27 pm

LarryHarris wrote:If we're worried about Jabari's weight now, imagine what will happen once Henson introduces him to Chipolte!

Jabari's Mormon faith will prevent the missing ingredient in Larry and Henson's fast food addiction from taking hold.

theFireBlanket · Post #118 » by **theFireBlanket** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:28 pm

msiris wrote:Don't count on Wiggins yet. Why would the Cavs leak this info out when they know that Philly might be interested in trading up in order to get Wiggins. Lots of smoke in the air.

But why would Ford still mock Parker to Cleveland if they had been scared away by him tanking a workout? They'd still pick him according to this.

Treebeard · Post #119 » by **Treebeard** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:30 pm

JayMKE wrote:
LarryHarris wrote:If we're worried about Jabari's weight now, imagine what will happen once Henson introduces him to Chipolte!

Jabari's Mormon faith will prevent the missing ingredient in Larry and Henson's fast food addiction from taking hold.

"There is no secret ingredient"

Po (Kung Fu Panda) :wink:

M-C-G · Post #120 » by **M-C-G** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:30 pm

From Jabari's perspective there are a lot of positives to be in MKE
1. Have a chance to be a/the face of a franchise (as opposed Irving and playing the shadow of Lebron's history)
2. Wojo - hopefully he can mentor him on and off the court here
3. Close to his parents
4. Chance to save / turn around a franchise
5. New owners that seem amazing as hell
6. Mormon Music Fest at the summer fest grounds every February, plus river, plus lake

Do it.