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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#101 » by Magic Giannison » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:09 am

blazza18 wrote:Teams are not tanking to get players like Jabari or Middleton.

Ohh really, you mean like Kyrie Irving and Kevin love or Draymond Green, Klay Thomson or any other stars that are complimenting the superstars on their teams ?
Because in terms of talent both Jabari and Middletton are stars, especially Jabari and we exactly did that for Jabari, we tanked for him.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#102 » by blazza18 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:12 am

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blazza18 wrote:Teams are not tanking to get players like Jabari or Middleton.

Ohh really, you mean like Kyrie Irving and Kevin love or Draymond Green, Klay Thomson or any other stars that are complimenting the superstars on their teams ?
Because in terms of talent both Jabari and Middletton are stars, especially Jabari and we exactly did that for Jabari, we tanked for him.


Yes, teams tank for all nba talent. What's your point?
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#103 » by GFreak34 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:15 am

blazza18 wrote:Teams are not tanking to get players like Jabari or Middleton.


lol and the hit's keep on rolling.. sure as things turned out, i 'd also pick Embiid over Parker, but if Parker didnt have the 2 ACL's, as it was back then i think every single team besides Minny that picked Wiggins would have taken Parker. So yeah, if teams tanked last year for a chance on either Fultz, Ball or Jackson, teams back then were tanking for a chance on Wiggins, Parker and Embiid.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#104 » by worthlessBucks » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:20 am

I wonder if Ainge will flip 3 to Chicago for Butler or somewhere else for someone similarly available for the right price. Gets an AS caliber player, keeps the additional future lotto pick, and also unloads some of the clutter on the roster in the process.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#105 » by GFreak34 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:21 am

blazza18 wrote:
Magic Giannison wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Teams are not tanking to get players like Jabari or Middleton.

Ohh really, you mean like Kyrie Irving and Kevin love or Draymond Green, Klay Thomson or any other stars that are complimenting the superstars on their teams ?
Because in terms of talent both Jabari and Middletton are stars, especially Jabari and we exactly did that for Jabari, we tanked for him.


Yes, teams tank for all nba talent. What's your point?


His point is that if Jabari didn't have his injuries, he would be an all NBA talent.. not to mention that Green was a 2nd round pick, nobody tanked to get him. He became an all NBA talent through the process, like Middleton will to. So, again, you re way off.
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Post#106 » by GFreak34 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:24 am

worthlessBucks wrote:I wonder if Ainge will flip 3 to Chicago for Butler or somewhere else for someone similarly available for the right price. Gets an AS caliber player, keeps the additional future lotto pick, and also unloads some of the clutter on the roster in the process.


They probably will.. Ainge went for Butler in Feb but the offer was not enough, now he has the extra assets to make a better move on him.. maybe AB, Jaylen, #3 and Sac 2019 for Butler.. plus he get's a chance on Hayward too.. signs them both and has his superteam.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#107 » by Magic Giannison » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:27 am

blazza18 wrote:
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blazza18 wrote:Teams are not tanking to get players like Jabari or Middleton.

Ohh really, you mean like Kyrie Irving and Kevin love or Draymond Green, Klay Thomson or any other stars that are complimenting the superstars on their teams ?
Because in terms of talent both Jabari and Middletton are stars, especially Jabari and we exactly did that for Jabari, we tanked for him.


Yes, teams tank for all nba talent. What's your point?

My point is that Jabari is all NBA talent if not injured and we did tank for Jabari ,heck people tanked for much worse. Same with the sixers, they tank for assest and hope that these assets pan out, we got assets that are already proven, that is a huge difference.

Our assets are already at the next stage of development while Sixers haven't even started and are unknown.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#108 » by blazza18 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:37 am

Jabari is a looooooong way away from being an all nba talent, even without the injuries.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#109 » by blazza18 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:39 am

worthlessBucks wrote:I wonder if Ainge will flip 3 to Chicago for Butler or somewhere else for someone similarly available for the right price. Gets an AS caliber player, keeps the additional future lotto pick, and also unloads some of the clutter on the roster in the process.


He's sorta gotta go all in now that he's probably keeping Thomas, right?
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#110 » by Fotis St » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:41 am

OK at some point we need to be objective ...

Yes, the Bucks are at better position than the Sixers right now

But you can't ignore Sixers roster is loaded with elite talent. There is a possibility that they will surpass us in 2019-2020.
You can't deny that possibility.

Fultz
Justin Anderson/TLC/Stauskas
Simmons
Saric
Embiid/Okafor

These are only the RFA
I didn't include future UFA like Holmes,Covington,McConnell

This team with a decent coach is scary for the future. The fact that right now we are better doesn't mean ****.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#111 » by GFreak34 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:41 am

blazza18 wrote:Jabari is a looooooong way away from being an all nba talent, even without the injuries.


if he had finished this season with the same pace on scoring.. i 'd say 2017 would be his year.. but we ll never know, coz after 2 ACLs the chances on full recovery are slim
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#112 » by GFreak34 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:44 am

Fotis St wrote:OK at some point we need to be objective ...

Yes, the Bucks are at better position than the Sixers right now

But you can't ignore Sixers roster is loaded with elite talent. There is a possibility that they will surpass us in 2019-2020.
You can't deny that possibility.

Fultz
Justin Anderson/TLC/Stauskas
Simmons
Saric
Embiid/Okafor

These are only the RFA
I didn't include future UFA like Holmes,Covington,McConnell

This team with a decent coach is scary for the future. The fact that right now we are better doesn't mean ****.
Future is all that matters


Fultz will be a bust.. by bust i mean compared to the hype he s got over here.. be kinda like D'angelo, but nothing more. That's why the Lakers passed on him, that's why Ainge passed on him.. but hey, they re always the ones that drafted Okafor and MCW around to salvage the pick.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#113 » by freewhitemoon » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:44 am

You do realise guys like Hayward and Paul George missed all NBA this year right
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Post#114 » by GFreak34 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:47 am

freewhitemoon wrote:You do realise guys like Hayward and Paul George missed all NBA this year right


and Giannis made the top10.. and?
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#115 » by Fotis St » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:48 am

GFreak34 wrote:
Fotis St wrote:OK at some point we need to be objective ...

Yes, the Bucks are at better position than the Sixers right now

But you can't ignore Sixers roster is loaded with elite talent. There is a possibility that they will surpass us in 2019-2020.
You can't deny that possibility.

Fultz
Justin Anderson/TLC/Stauskas
Simmons
Saric
Embiid/Okafor

These are only the RFA
I didn't include future UFA like Holmes,Covington,McConnell

This team with a decent coach is scary for the future. The fact that right now we are better doesn't mean ****.
Future is all that matters


Fultz will be a bust.. by bust i mean compared to the hype he s got over here.. be kinda like D'angelo, but nothing more. That's why the Lakers passed on him, that's why Ainge passed on him.. but hey, they re always the ones that drafted Okafor and MCW around to salvage the pick.


You can't know bro ... Just calm down bro :wink: ... who gives a **** what Sixers do anyway ? We have our own problems to solve...
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#116 » by GFreak34 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:51 am

Fotis St wrote:
GFreak34 wrote:
Fotis St wrote:OK at some point we need to be objective ...


You can't know bro ... Just calm down bro :wink: ... who gives a **** what Sixers do anyway ? We have our own problems to solve...



i m more convinced with that analysis, over the ones that over hype on him

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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#117 » by freewhitemoon » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:56 am

GFreak34 wrote:
freewhitemoon wrote:You do realise guys like Hayward and Paul George missed all NBA this year right


and Giannis made the top10.. and?


and you were projecting Jabari to be all nba level this year if not for his injuries?
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#118 » by Fotis St » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:56 am

And to be clear about my thoughts on Fultz and this draft class ... I think #1 Isaac , #2 Monk , #3 Tatum
Having said that I can't deny Fultz has huge potential to be a star.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#119 » by GFreak34 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:58 am

freewhitemoon wrote:
GFreak34 wrote:
freewhitemoon wrote:You do realise guys like Hayward and Paul George missed all NBA this year right


and Giannis made the top10.. and?


and you were projecting Jabari to be all nba level this year if not for his injuries?


next year.. starting 2017/2018.. IF he finished the season with this pace and IF he was healthy.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#120 » by GFreak34 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:18 am

Would the Bucks trade Giannis to the Celtics for #3, BKN 2018 1st, Sac/LAL 1st and Jaylen Brown?

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